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Yeah I’m not so sure about this whole changing oil is the “poor man’s revalving”. No credible Ohlins shop will use non-Ohlins oil. If a shop offers that, walk away. Additionally, changing shims on a TTX is relatively simple and can be done without disassembling the entire shock. Again, a reputable Ohlins shop can do this and can potentially be done on bike.
The odd thing that baffles me is that Ducati test riders - literally professional riders with years of experience whose sole responsibility is to sort out these bikes - can make them work without any geometry changes or radical suspension changes even on the track. I get that dialing in a bike using basic suspension parameters (the correct springs for your weight and then tailor in comp/rebound) is necessary. But changing triples, extending swingarms, changing shim stacks, linkages, etc etc is waaaaay overkill for even for the club racer especially with a V4.
There’s a reason that it takes a team to run a bike with these big modifications. But even then, it’s to make gains in the hundredths and tenths of a sec
The limiting factor isn’t the bike, rather it’s the person sitting on it. An avid track day rider won’t truly take advantage of these radical suspension changes. They won’t fix ...... riding technique.
This change in ”feel” will be mostly a placebo effect if anything. You‘ll be complicating an already sorted platform when the thing that needs to be changed is honing your skills with more practice.
If you’re making these changes without a person like Bruce or roadracerx (which I’m surprised they offer this knowledge and experience for free because you really should be paying for it) or similar that can exploit these nuanced parts, you’re doing it wrong. But if you want to throw money at a problem and see what sticks by all means have at it.
Ohlins on these platforms comes with 5 weight. Ohlins also makes a 10 weight oil, so some tuners will switch to the 10 weight Ohlins oil. That’s not using a non-Ohlins oil.
I don’t really agree with your assessment on mods. Shim stacking is basic suspension setup, it’s not overly complicated and any Ohlins service can do it. Sure a pro rider can push the bike hard and lay down great times. The problem is most of us aren’t pro riders, so the skill gets made up for by adjusting the other weaker links on the bike itself. I’m sure Rossi can adjust for a bad suspension a hell of a lot better than I can. Some of these little things eventually add up and result in a bike that’s easier to ride and turn faster times on.
Totally agree that the rider is the weakest link more often than not.