Wanting to Purchase a 2014 1199 R but nervous

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Hi everyone.

Came here to ease my mind about these bikes. Long time motorcycle owner but have only ever owned Hondas(RC51, CB750, VF750) I am looking at a 2014 1199 R with about 19k miles(desmo service performed). 19k miles does not bother me on a Honda but does the Ducati. Anyone on here have high mileage, if so have you had any major problems.
 
Service history and past ownership, tracked or pampered? The bikes are well made, engines pretty bulletproof if not abused and 19k is not high.
 
I have a V2 with almost 40k miles. I had to replace one of the heads because of flaws in the aluminum casting. Only issue ever in 9 years.
How many owners? +1 history is a big deal. 3 owners would be a pretty big red flag imo.
 
Service history and past ownership, tracked or pampered? The bikes are well made, engines pretty bulletproof if not abused and 19k is not high.

Never tracked,well maintained. Ive heard of many engine failures but normally under 10k miles. so maybe those are just abused
 
1199S with 40k miles. No major issues. Ridden hard. I wouldn't say that Ducati as a brand is an issue. Rather, I'd say when you have 200 hp no matter the brand you are looking at more potential issues. More mechanical stress and more heat. If you are ready for that level of power and riding then do it.
 
I have a V2 with almost 40k miles. I had to replace one of the heads because of flaws in the aluminum casting. Only issue ever in 9 years.
How many owners? +1 history is a big deal. 3 owners would be a pretty big red flag imo.

Wow that is really good to here. I will be the third owner. second owner has put 8k miles under his ownership.
 
New V4S, they decided to go with a new gasket and no RTV silicon which was not a good idea. Replacing gaskets front + back & water pump, all under warranty.
Ducati experiments hard, pushing tech and limits, always on point with the latest. .... happens. That's part of the deal. You want a Ferrari, you need a garage and a mechanic, you know what I mean? I've had 3 Ducati and mostly I'd say they were exceptional bikes. 1st and second ones were damn near perfect rides. Monster 900S 0 issues ever through 28k miles. Keeping it in a garage is a big deal, makes a big difference. Don't keep it outside and think it'll run great always. Hit all maintenance, change oil frequently. Treat it well and it will pay off in good times.
If you can get an extended warranty like EveryRed, DO IT. If you're at a the dealer they might offer something like that. Not sure 2014, is a bit past it though.
Everyone has stories. I'm sure you can find not great ones, but I think they are the exception.
 
New V4S, they decided to go with a new gasket and no RTV silicon which was not a good idea. Replacing gaskets front + back & water pump, all under warranty.
Ducati experiments hard, pushing tech and limits, always on point with the latest. .... happens. That's part of the deal. You want a Ferrari, you need a garage and a mechanic, you know what I mean? I've had 3 Ducati and mostly I'd say they were exceptional bikes. 1st and second ones were damn near perfect rides. Monster 900S 0 issues ever through 28k miles. Keeping it in a garage is a big deal, makes a big difference. Don't keep it outside and think it'll run great always. Hit all maintenance, change oil frequently. Treat it well and it will pay off in good times.
If you can get an extended warranty like EveryRed, DO IT. If you're at a the dealer they might offer something like that. Not sure 2014, is a bit past it though.
Everyone has stories. I'm sure you can find not great ones, but I think they are the exception.

Thank you for the reply. Completely understand what you're saying. I was honestly looking at a brand new CBR600RR for the pure fact it would be new and I can put as many miles I want on it and parts are cheap. I ran across the Ducati 1199 and they are priced around the same as the new bike but ive always wanted a Ducati.
 
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Thank you for the reply. Completely understand what you're saying. I was honestly looking at a brand new CBR600RR for the pure fact it would be new and I can put as many miles I want on it and parts are cheap. I ran across the Ducati 1199 and they are priced around the same as the new bike but ive always wanted a Ducati.

The single factor (of several) most related to outcome satisfaction, is insight - you need to know to identify and then prioritize different aspects of an item into appropriate tiers of importance (tier 1, 2, 3, etc…). People (especially men, by the data) are not good at this. Routinely, when people wind up somewhat dissatisfied with a purchase, it’s because they misidentify tier 3 issues as tier 1 issues and vice versa. There is literature on this you can reference.

If reliability is actually a tier 1 issue (because finding yourself stranded on the side of the road has you ready to drop it off at the crusher), but you falsely perceive the opposite (that having a fast, sexy bike is a tier 1 issue, because “Dayyuum those panigales are fast and look good!”), you risk being dissatisfied if you find yourself on the side of the road because your fast, sexy motorcycle broke down (especially when someone casually passes you on an uber-reliable cbr).

Alternatively, the person inclined to say, “Meh, it only strands me once in a while - the rest of the time it’s a dead sexy beast of a bike!”, will likely be satisfied.

You might also consider that broadly speaking there is 3 categories of vehicles:

1. Those that run nearly flawlessly with minimal maintenance
2. Those that need more frequent maintenance but almost never leave you stranded
3. Those that will probably have you calling roadside assistance

Care to guess which group most Hondas are in, and which group most Ducatis are in?

If you’re used to, or will only be satisfied with #1, you might look hard at that cbr.
 
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The single factor (of several) most related to outcome satisfaction, is insight - you need to know to identify and then prioritize different aspects of an item into appropriate tiers of importance (tier 1, 2, 3, etc…). People (especially men, by the data) are not good at this. Routinely, when people wind up somewhat dissatisfied with a purchase, it’s because they misidentify tier 3 issues as tier 1 issues and vice versa. There is literature on this you can reference.

If reliability is actually a tier 1 issue (because finding yourself stranded on the side of the road has you ready to drop it off at the crusher), but you falsely perceive the opposite (that having a fast, sexy bike is a tier 1 issue, because “Dayyuum those panigales are fast and look good!”), you risk being dissatisfied if you find yourself on the side of the road because your fast, sexy motorcycle broke down (especially when someone casually passes you on an uber-reliable cbr).

Alternatively, the person inclined to say, “Meh, it only strands me once in a while - the rest of the time it’s a dead sexy beast of a bike!”, will likely be satisfied.

You might also consider that broadly speaking there is 3 categories of vehicles:

1. Those that run nearly flawlessly with minimal maintenance
2. Those that need more frequent maintenance but almost never leave you stranded
3. Those that will probably have you calling roadside assistance

Care to guess which group most Hondas are in, and which group most Ducatis are in?

If you’re used to, or will only be satisfied with #1, you might look hard at that cbr.

Love this response

Most honda guys are number 1., Ducati will be number 2

I will say I am number 2. Reason being even though I own multiple Honda motorcycle, I perform services more frequent just because I am a little OCD. I perform all of my own work. What I am concerned about it major engine failure and/or a repair that can not be performed by my self. I guess another worry of mine is cost of ownership. I know these bikes are not cheap, I know its a high end product. I guess my biggest issue is im not upside down on any of my bikes, I got them all well under market value, If I need to sell one I will be in the green. I dont know how well these bikes hold their value, Considering that the 1199 R is a limited production bike im blown away with how cheap it is.

You owning these bikes and have been around them is this a bike you can do 5,000 miles a year on without the engine failing before 30k miles?

I may sound like I am broke and should be looking at these bikes but truthfully I am just frugal. Maybe this isnt the bike for me, as much as I want it.
 
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Take a look at Yamaha. They are really pushing the GYTR (or whatever it is) parts. For enough money, they'll sell you a WSBK in the coming months. 44 Teeth did a video about it on YouTube.
 
I have a 2015 R I picked up with <4k miles, put another 4k track only miles on it. Desmo annually plus the usual fluid changes every few track weekends, no issues at all for what it is worth. Nowhere near your mileage, and the previous owner bought and serviced the bike at my same shop, so quite a bit of piece of mind knowing it's history.

I would double check with your dealer specifically about the '14 but on the '15 the oil should never be above the low line of the sight glass.
 
In 6 years of Panigale ownership Ive never had a fault or breakdown out riding.

Individual experience will vary. In 3 years of ownership, my v4 has had track day-ending failure of the gear position sensor, quick shifter, and engine (spun bearing) - 3 separate incidents on different days.

It also overheated once and went into limp mode ending a fourth track day (only later discovered a pinhole in the radiator).
 
Individual experience will vary. In 3 years of ownership, my v4 has had track day-ending failure of the gear position sensor, quick shifter, and engine (spun bearing) - 3 separate incidents on different days.

It also overheated once and went into limp mode ending a fourth track day (only later discovered a pinhole in the radiator).

I hear you but to be fair track day use is testing the limits of reliability. If the OP is getting it for track them he will likely have a truck and trailer to haul it around plus the expectation that it will .... itself at some stage.
 
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I hear you but to be fair track day use is testing the limits of reliability. If the OP is getting it for track them he will likely have a truck and trailer to haul it around plus the expectation that it will .... itself at some stage.

The track is likely a more rigorous test of reliability than the street, but for sake of comparison, my 13 year old gsxr 750 never left me stranded at the track once in 3 years of track days. My 4 year old panigale has left me stranded several times.
 
The track is likely a more rigorous test of reliability than the street...
If someone is hammering their bike on the street and doing long highway top speed runs complete with wheelies I think that can be a much harsher life than riding six or seven 20 minute sessions periodically on the weekends. Commuting with an occasional highway ramp pull would be a much easier life.
 

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