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endodoc said:
Precisely why you don’t see servos on all the aftermarket pipes, the Mfg understands that the buyer probably doesn’t have the rest of the “system” to make that work correctly. If you do want to incorporate servo technology then you buy the MM kit and the race pipe with the servo and the software and get after it.
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Yes.. I’m aware of the almost limitless possibilities with a stand-alone ecu, especially the Motec M1 series which allows you to write your own firmware.

Ngl… I’m quite jealous [emoji17]


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Alkhater said:
Yes.. I’m aware of the almost limitless possibilities with a stand-alone ecu, especially the Motec M1 series which allows you to write your own firmware.

Ngl… I’m quite jealous [emoji17]


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LOL don’t be jealous, I haven’t the foggiest idea how to play with the electronics. My plan is to do what I can do which is fabricate and build and let someone else figure all that out. I like the quality of the aftermarket stuff but from a user interface perspective, I have zero business playing with these systems.

The stock electronics (function) are impressive however the electrical system (components) are absolute garbage. I can’t build a bike with that crap.
 
endodoc said:
LOL don’t be jealous, I haven’t the foggiest idea how to play with the electronics. My plan is to do what I can do which is fabricate and build and let someone else figure all that out. I like the quality of the aftermarket stuff but from a user interface perspective, I have zero business playing with these systems.

The stock electronics (function) are impressive however the electrical system (components) are absolute garbage. I can’t build a bike with that crap.
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It’s actually not as hard or intimidating as it looks tuning this stuff.

At first I was afraid to touch any of it on my Porsche, then little by little I started playing with boost, then boost time and throttle position and per rpm level, next thing you know I’m playing with the lambda and afr etc etc etc

They key is to be in communication with someone in the beggining who can tell you where the safe and desirables parameters are, log a lot with each change to make sure your not shitting the bed, and make small adjustments then log a pull then look at the log etc etc

If you go slow and easy it’s fairly easy and safe to do, and you certainly have more than enough grey matter to do it.
 
endodoc said:
LOL don’t be jealous, I haven’t the foggiest idea how to play with the electronics. My plan is to do what I can do which is fabricate and build and let someone else figure all that out. I like the quality of the aftermarket stuff but from a user interface perspective, I have zero business playing with these systems.

The stock electronics (function) are impressive however the electrical system (components) are absolute garbage. I can’t build a bike with that crap.
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I can relate, totally!

I’m interested in tuning but I can’t imagine the cost and time involved in setting up the rider aids side of the electronics and I’m not quite ready to let go of them on a street bike. But… like you mention about the stock electronics, I would ditch it all and replace with a PDM.

I’ve been dreaming of getting an aim sports pdm/logger set up to replace the stock electronics even with the stock ecu [emoji1786]

Motec though, I’d want a shop and a dyno at the same time [emoji28]


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Steven31371 said:
I ordered the Woolich ECU tuner yesterday
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They were late sending me the email. Very exciting!

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Was at an AOPA symposium today. One segment was on the progressional development of electric power plants and energy systems from General Electric, Safran and Wright. Pretty amazing stuff.

The V4 sounds amazing with that Spark system for sure but I am thoroughly convinced from what I am seeing from the aerospace sector that in less than 2 years you will have an ebike powered SBK that will make that GoEleven bike look like it’s standing still on the straights and just as capable in the corners.

Additionally, wait till they get the weight down on hub motors tech, and tie that into the electronics on the ebike platform. 2wd SBK with computer Power and TC synchronization. I get their are a lot of E haters out there but I’m pretty exited about etech. You can always pipe in some vintage exhaust notes on the ear buds to satisfy the the audible pallet.
 
endodoc said:
Was at an AOPA symposium today. One segment was on the progressional development of electric power plants and energy systems from General Electric, Safran and Wright. Pretty amazing stuff.

The V4 sounds amazing with that Spark system for sure but I am thoroughly convinced from what I am seeing from the aerospace sector that in less than 2 years you will have an ebike powered SBK that will make that GoEleven bike look like it’s standing still on the straights and just as capable in the corners.

Additionally, wait till they get the weight down on hub motors tech, and tie that into the electronics on the ebike platform. 2wd SBK with computer Power and TC synchronization. I get their are a lot of E haters out there but I’m pretty exited about etech. You can always pipe in some vintage exhaust notes on the ear buds to satisfy the the audible pallet.
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Agreed to all….also there is a mod for Tesla already available that lets you make the car sound however you want including like a lopey canned V8 lol…with external speakers so it sounds like anything from a supercharged rotors engine to a drag car.

Personally I think they should make them sound like StarWars Tye Fighters or something instead of mimicking the sound of older technologies.

Maybe just use less sound deadening so you could hear better and get some sound engineers to design the cars or bikes so that some relatively low volume sound associated with how fast the thing is going is audible.

Humans are malleable, give us any kind of sound associated with power and speed and we’ll come to love it.
 
endodoc said:
Was at an AOPA symposium today. One segment was on the progressional development of electric power plants and energy systems from General Electric, Safran and Wright. Pretty amazing stuff.

The V4 sounds amazing with that Spark system for sure but I am thoroughly convinced from what I am seeing from the aerospace sector that in less than 2 years you will have an ebike powered SBK that will make that GoEleven bike look like it’s standing still on the straights and just as capable in the corners.

Additionally, wait till they get the weight down on hub motors tech, and tie that into the electronics on the ebike platform. 2wd SBK with computer Power and TC synchronization. I get their are a lot of E haters out there but I’m pretty exited about etech. You can always pipe in some vintage exhaust notes on the ear buds to satisfy the the audible pallet.
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Agree with everything except the 2WD idea. I'm not sure motorcycle steering geometry supports 2WD beyond relatively slow speeds, like on Urals. I guess it isn't impossible, but it'd be a whole new world of physics to get familiar with. That wacky center hub steering some Bimotas use might be the only way to really make it work, as it mitigates fork dive/geometry change upon accel/decel.
 
endodoc said:
Was at an AOPA symposium today. One segment was on the progressional development of electric power plants and energy systems from General Electric, Safran and Wright. Pretty amazing stuff.

The V4 sounds amazing with that Spark system for sure but I am thoroughly convinced from what I am seeing from the aerospace sector that in less than 2 years you will have an ebike powered SBK that will make that GoEleven bike look like it’s standing still on the straights and just as capable in the corners.

Additionally, wait till they get the weight down on hub motors tech, and tie that into the electronics on the ebike platform. 2wd SBK with computer Power and TC synchronization. I get their are a lot of E haters out there but I’m pretty exited about etech. You can always pipe in some vintage exhaust notes on the ear buds to satisfy the the audible pallet.
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It wasn’t until I drove a testa that I was thoroughly convinced about the future of Ecars an their capability. I love all things internal combustion and the sounds that come with it, But seeing Porsche’s electric race car program in its infant stages is really exciting. I feel like electric cars and motorcycles will be a lot more predictable and refined. Gone will be the days where we once spoke about chasing the perfect powerband...
 

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