What V4 track upgrades for $15K?
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That wasn’t his question.
His question was essentially: “If I buy a V4 base that’s $15k less than a V4R, what should I spend money on the make the bike as good or better of a track weapon in PARTS for the $15k difference.”
One thing people forget, we almost always do what we WANT to do, while we SOMETIMES do what we need to do.
And we each get one life at a time at best, one life period at worst, abs it’s a pretty short one…so I say live and let live, to each his own.
Also, this is a Ducati forum, most people here perform above the average in generating income, so I doubt there are very many people here that can’t simultaneously swing a few bucks toward some upgrades AND track time/coaching.
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This is what we would do if given the choice, maybe the OP would do better by riding each model and making the choice. I would love the R but its wasted for mostly road use.
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That’s why I didn’t get it, I had the choice to get my Anniversario or the V4R for about the same price, but knew this bike would be better for the 60 to 70 percent street riding I’d be doing with it versus the 30 to 40 percent track riding.
I bought this $5000 badass little race proven gixxer for the track. It’s not sexy at all, but I can lay it down and build it back for the price of one part on the Anniversario.
I didn’t upgrade or alter a single thing on that bike and don’t plan to.
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This is why we are all different people. I don't give a crap about riding on the street. At all. I think it's a waste of time. It requires zero skill whatsoever. I think high power bikes for the street are just for show, unless you want to be a squid and go twice the speed limit and generally do silly things. If I see a great piece of road, there are 3 or 4 other vehicles in my garage I would want to be in on that road before a motorcycle even crosses my mind. I hate starbucks and bike nights and generally hanging out with people interested in the badge more than the sport. No interest.
If you want to be a collector and possess a thing of beauty, I understand that more than I understand riding a tricked out V4 on the street.
Since I am 100% race/track only, I wouldn't waste my time with any gixxer/r6/run of the mill bike. Just not worth the value of my time to tow the trailer out to the track, unpack, put warmers on and ride an average bike when I could be doing so many other things with my time that day. The bike's gotta be unique and beautiful and fast and generally worthy of the opportunity cost.
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Well you’ve been riding long enough that going 150 mph on a bike is well calibrated in your brain and less if a rush than it is for me lol
I have to go 180 to 200 mph in the Porsche to get the same rush I get from 120 to 150 on the bike….but there is NO PLACE on public roads I can drive my car that fast, only at the racing events.
While I can jump on the bike, head over to a toll road that’s totally empty with good tarmac abs do some pulls on the bike that are fast enough to get my adrenalin fix and not be unsafe about it.
At the track I’m still a much newer rider, where it makes sense to learn on an easier bike that I don’t mind laying down.
That gixxer I got I certainly wouldn’t describe as an average bike, doesn’t pull as hard as the Ducati but it’s actually easier to ride fast…and it’s not a track prepped bike, it’s a full on Championship Winning race bike from back in the day, Maverick knows more about it than me, but the bike won some race series.
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Haha
You caught me.
That was my Dad’s bike, he passed awhile back and I bought it from him to keep it in the family, it’s what got me started riding bikes…I thought it would just be a pretty shiny thing sitting in my garage but I started riding it and fell in love…but wanted something sportier, so I got the V4S Streetfighter, that was a bridge to getting the Ducati I have now.
Then I bought the race gixxer to learn with on track days.
So I have the K5 Gixxer Race bike
2013 HD CVO Breakout all chromed out.
Ducati 25 Anniversario 916 obviously heavily modded
The only one I really ride is the Ducati though, unless my wife wants to go around the block on the HD.
The Gixxer will get more use this coming year at track days, where I’ll ride it most of the time at first but take the Duca Anni out for some sessions.
Eventually I’ll probably build a Pierobon based track bike.
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Wow that's a cool story, envy you being able to continue your dad's memory with something he loved.
Now, that's a bike I would respect anyone for riding on the street. That's a more authentic street bike than your V4! Not pretending to be anything, just cruising, I can get behind that. ...., I always said if I ever get back to street riding I would get a goldwing!
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It’s an event riding that bike, it’s loud and low and torquey and rude, it’s a totally different mindset when you’re on it.
It’s a hot rod of a bike.
It’s like a loud rude late 60”s charger or camero with a blower sticking out of the hood lol
Doesn’t turn well, goes like hell between two stop lights, and makes low angry sound that rattles your teeth while you do it.
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Haha, a few years ago I bought a 1500cc Goldwing in the US. I flew into Atlantic City, picked it up and road it to San Francisco. LOVED that bike.
It would be .... on track though....
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You are like schmee! if you know the reference haha
I haven't been near a goldwing in a long time but I think the modern ones have heated seats, reverse gear, adjustable windshields and all kinds of other trickeries. They are barely motorcycles anymore and more two wheeled cars. Sit my wife on the back, raise the adjustable windshield, turn the seat heaters up and cruise around the Vermont back roads in the fall with warm apple cider in the cup holder. That's all part of the early retirement plan....
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You are like schmee! if you know the reference haha
I haven't been near a goldwing in a long time but I think the modern ones have heated seats, reverse gear, adjustable windshields and all kinds of other trickeries. They are barely motorcycles anymore and more two wheeled cars. Sit my wife on the back, raise the adjustable windshield, turn the seat heaters up and cruise around the Vermont back roads in the fall with warm apple cider in the cup holder. That's all part of the early retirement plan....
Haha, that sounds like a good retirement plan!
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You are like schmee! if you know the reference haha
I haven't been near a goldwing in a long time but I think the modern ones have heated seats, reverse gear, adjustable windshields and all kinds of other trickeries. They are barely motorcycles anymore and more two wheeled cars. Sit my wife on the back, raise the adjustable windshield, turn the seat heaters up and cruise around the Vermont back roads in the fall with warm apple cider in the cup holder. That's all part of the early retirement plan....
Ride around Lake Champlain over to Lake Placid on the NY side, that last 30 miles or so up into Lake Placid is one of the most beautiful stretches if road anywhere.
The Northeast Kingdom is beautiful too in Vermont, Northern NH and Maine too.
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