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Back in 2011 My options for a new bike was between S1000RR and RSV4 Factory. Aprilia won that coparsion with 9-1. RSV4 was more fun to ride, better riding position (better handlebar angle that suited my hands much better), better midrange, much better sound and much sexier to look at etc. Only benefit S1000RR had was more top end power. After that I have never ridden a S1000RR. It is for sure a great (track) bike but for me there is no return from an Italian superbike to an I4 (which I have owned plenty of before the ape).
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The BMW to me is like my R6 on steroids.
Does things really well and is great on track but its really boring and uninspiring on the street unless you're revving it (and breaking all laws which isn't practical)
The Ducati twin shakes, burbles, makes all sorts of sounds and just feels alive.
Also it has the advantage of torque so you get to feel the power without revving it sky high which again is impractical on the street.
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yeah I rode their S1000RR at the school. BORING
Did you know British California Superbike schools have Ducati Panigale? How do you explain that?
no BS, Funtional approach with Italian beauty, emotions, and excitement?
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that school is a joke
yeah I rode their S1000RR at the school. BORING
Did you know British California Superbike schools have Ducati Panigale? How do you explain that?
no BS, Funtional approach with Italian beauty, emotions, and excitement?
Didn't see that coming.
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Have to agree, obsessive counter steering instruction for beginners!
The BMW track ride day's were supported by Cal SBK School instructors and during the breaks they had classroom instruction so I got to sample the advanced classroom whiteboard stuff and they wanted me to spend a lot of time on the edge of my tyre, the sort of lines I would pull in my car on the track. I stupidly went up and drew on the whiteboard what I would do (slower speed tighter angle for a shorter time) bad move again I was laughed out.
Two of my friends who have been on three of the courses together are forever going on about counter steering, Invaluable tool to very advances riders but not so much for beginners. If you can't basic counter steer you wouldn't make it through the first corner
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That reason likely has more to do with sponsorship and discounts than what was the best tool for the job.
Have to agree, obsessive counter steering instruction for beginners!
The BMW track ride day's were supported by Cal SBK School instructors and during the breaks they had classroom instruction so I got to sample the advanced classroom whiteboard stuff and they wanted me to spend a lot of time on the edge of my tyre, the sort of lines I would pull in my car on the track. I stupidly went up and drew on the whiteboard what I would do (slower speed tighter angle for a shorter time) bad move again I was laughed out.
Two of my friends who have been on three of the courses together are forever going on about counter steering, Invaluable tool to very advances riders but not so much for beginners. If you can't basic counter steer you wouldn't make it through the first corner
I wouldn't run down the bike schools so quickly. They teach some basics and help a lot of guys understand the dynamics that are in play on a motorcycle.
I for one encourage all riders who haven't done a school to do one.
If I can help one more fellow motorcycle enthusiast to stay alive , I am happy.
There are many ways to take a corner. In the class I race in, we divide dramatically in our race lines and execution.
We mostly get around safely and you'd be surprised how 2 totally different lines and techniques reach a similar goal.
It's a bad showing that they laughed at your line. It's yours and if it works, all good right.
But at the end of the day, they do teach some life saving techniques so wouldn't want newbies thinking they are a waste of time.
I have seen one too many dead motorcyclist on the mountain passes because they really had no clue.
It's not a nice sight , and I always wonder if it could be avoided with some schooling.
In any case, enough of the morbid stuff. Tomorrow we see the V.
Can't wait. Hope ol Ducati surprises us with another beaut !
I did the Cal. bike school @ Phillip Island on s1000rr. Had a blast. but they had some very strick following distance rules which were painful at times.
I did another course with Troy Bayliss on my local track (on my own ducati)A couple of corners they lines he show us were completely different to how we race. We got a few laps on one of his race team's race bike too.
worth every cent.
now we wait for the real pictures of the v4!
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That would be cool!
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2018 line up is:
Monster 821 plus four new models....
Multistrada 1260DVT in three versions
Scrambler 1100 in two versions (Base and tricked up Ohlins version) plus 1100 Cafe Racer to follow on next year
Panigale 959 Corse
Panigale V4 Base, V4S and Speciale (tricked up version with as has been said 1199SL wheels and 1299SL/FE style Akra exhaust system (close to £30K though....ouch!!)
Monster 821 plus four new models....
Multistrada 1260DVT in three versions
Scrambler 1100 in two versions (Base and tricked up Ohlins version) plus 1100 Cafe Racer to follow on next year
Panigale 959 Corse
Panigale V4 Base, V4S and Speciale (tricked up version with as has been said 1199SL wheels and 1299SL/FE style Akra exhaust system (close to £30K though....ouch!!)
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Cheeses. I'm going to need a bigger garage.
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