Who is excited about the Ducati V4?

Ducati Forum

Help Support Ducati Forum:

"Road mode shows Ducati Multimedia System (DMS) information". Oddly little if any mention has been made of this. Wonder if it is similar to what is I believe on the Multistroodle already, which would explain the Bluetooth capability that has been mentioned or hinted at. Perhaps JarelJ can elaborate on this?

Here is the full description:

"The Panigale V4 gets a new 5" full-TFT, high-res and high-brightness colour display, completely redesigned in terms of layout and graphics, including a new virtual circular rev-counter located on the right side.

Two different layouts are available: Track mode focuses attention on the lap time indicator, while Road mode shows Ducati Multimedia System (DMS) information, and highlights engine rpm values typical of road riding. Top speed, selected riding mode, and selected gear do not change position when the layout mode is changed."
 
Well, I guess those spy pictures where right on. Lol

My thoughts just from the pictures:

It looks good, but perhaps not in all red

I'm think I'm not going to like the "Twin Pulse" firing order. It will likely Vib more than the L-Twin

It will be as heavy as the rest of the bunch, but handle better due to the balance in the V4

I'm betting the heat issue will be considerably less, then again, maybe not.

I'd like to see the dash, I've not been to the site, just watched press release.

5888e08395f4622ef767d2a12b8d0ec9.jpg

9900986dc5a7751a5625ee2df97b7a08.jpg

809506c4b74af851f521a3695e0ec01d.jpg
 
topolino said:
"Road mode shows Ducati Multimedia System (DMS) information". Oddly little if any mention has been made of this. Wonder if it is similar to what is I believe on the Multistroodle already, which would explain the Bluetooth capability that has been mentioned or hinted at. Perhaps JarelJ can elaborate on this?

Here is the full description:

"The Panigale V4 gets a new 5" full-TFT, high-res and high-brightness colour display, completely redesigned in terms of layout and graphics, including a new virtual circular rev-counter located on the right side.

Two different layouts are available: Track mode focuses attention on the lap time indicator, while Road mode shows Ducati Multimedia System (DMS) information, and highlights engine rpm values typical of road riding. Top speed, selected riding mode, and selected gear do not change position when the layout mode is changed."
Click to expand...

yes. they sayed it haves bluetooth, and yo can send the music to your helmet and read your sms.
 
Jarel or anyone else who is scouring the internet. Have they released any actual chassis specs? IE, rake/trail head angle etc? Just curious where they may have made changes on that in conjunction with the new engine design. A little surprised at the lack of technical details. Seems like they just led with the power/weight figures. Which admittedly, are way more sexy.
 
shakazulu12 said:
Jarel or anyone else who is scouring the internet. Have they released any actual chassis specs? IE, rake/trail head angle etc? Just curious where they may have made changes on that in conjunction with the new engine design. A little surprised at the lack of technical details. Seems like they just led with the power/weight figures. Which admittedly, are way more sexy.
Click to expand...


front frame weights 4 kg. i ´m not sure about if it is magensium made..., rake 24 º, trail 98mm.

you can see the specs here.

https://www.ducati.com/ww/en/bikes/panigale/panigale-v4
 
Last edited:
the power of marketing

1409 v4 P/W = 0.55440414507772
1299 L2 P/W @ 205hp =0.55858310626703
1299 L2 corrected P/W @197 hp = 0.53678474114441

all things being equal the power to weight of the v4 is better . kinda makes you skeptical of the validity of said numbers though .

btw I think the video of the bike around the track makes it look much better this adds to Jarel's point of looking at it in person before judging IMO

again could someone explain why the V4 is called a 1409 my ocd is asking :D
 
Macattack said:
1409 v4 P/W = 0.55440414507772
1299 L2 P/W @ 205hp =0.55858310626703
1299 L2 corrected P/W @197 hp = 0.53678474114441

all things being equal the power to weight of the v4 is better . kinda makes you skeptical of the validity of said numbers though .

btw I think the video of the bike around the track makes it look much better this adds to Jarel's point of looking at it in person before judging IMO

again could someone explain why the V4 is called a 1409 my ocd is asking :D
Click to expand...

Its just a project code number as was "1704" for the Superleggera 1299.
 
DCPanni said:
If it's 1409 cc then it's not WSB legal to race. I thought four cylinder engines are capped at 1000 cc.
Click to expand...

Nothing revealed yesterday is going to be raced, plus it's 1103cc and not 1409cc. The homologation R version is a year away and won't be campaigned until 2019.
 
I really want to like it and put a deposit down a few weeks ago in the hopes that it would blow me away, but it just hasn't. I'm sure the performance makes up for the looks, but I'm not trading a beautiful 1299S for - what I consider to be - a somewhat ugly V4S.

The exhaust looks enormous now, it could be mitigated slightly by making it black, but just flat steel makes it look really clunky under the bike. On the 1299 you barely realize that it has an exhaust, your focus is completely on the beauty of the bike.

The tail looks stubby, which could also have been helped if they had extended the paint under the seat further to visually elongate it.

Using the 1299S wheels for the V4S is unforgivably lazy.

The painted panel directly underneath the seat is just weird.

And the silver brace or whatever it is that extends out from the side fairing is too prominent and should have been black at least.

The worst part by far though is whatever is going on with a fairing covering the front half of the gas tank. If there were just a blade going back from the side fairing that solved the problem of "where the hell am I meant to hook my knee on this thing", I would be happy, but now the bike looks like a mess.

Don't get me wrong, the headlights and taillights are cool and I'm sure the engine is next level. But Ducati really dropped the ball on designing this thing. The elegance of the 1299 was thrown out the window completely.
 
topolino said:
"Road mode shows Ducati Multimedia System (DMS) information". Oddly little if any mention has been made of this. Wonder if it is similar to what is I believe on the Multistroodle already, which would explain the Bluetooth capability that has been mentioned or hinted at. Perhaps JarelJ can elaborate on this?

Here is the full description:

"The Panigale V4 gets a new 5" full-TFT, high-res and high-brightness colour display, completely redesigned in terms of layout and graphics, including a new virtual circular rev-counter located on the right side.

Two different layouts are available: Track mode focuses attention on the lap time indicator, while Road mode shows Ducati Multimedia System (DMS) information, and highlights engine rpm values typical of road riding. Top speed, selected riding mode, and selected gear do not change position when the layout mode is changed."
Click to expand...


This sounds like a nice upgrade, but probably not enough to make me buy. Each bike I've owned with the exception of the RSV4, was a technological upgrade of the previous bike, mostly in the form of safety.

Triple To CBR - ABS
CBR to S1000RR - Traction and Wheelie Control
S1000RR to RSV4 - No upgrade
RSV4 to Panigale - Cornering ABS, eSuspension, AutoBlipper

Panigale to ....- next bike has to have all of that Panigale has plus hopefully Cruise and I'd really like to have Tire Temp

But over all, I'm liking what the V4 Panigale offers, it's just not much of an upgrade over my 1299S.

I also think they don't get class leading power out of a V4 1000. I'm baffled over Twin Pulse Firing Order
 
Last edited:
200/60 rear tire!!!!! Please dont bash me but i love the look of a fat rear tire. The red does nothing for me but the Speciale looks pretty dang nice
 
in terms of aesthetics, this bike is terrible. the visible part of the frame sticks out and doesn't integrate into the lines of bike. the tank portion integrating into fairing is jarring and splits the tank line.

not sure how D could release such a design.

solution: fairing covers frame, tank single piece & remove fairing indentations (simplify a la 1299).
 
Last edited:
VAST said:
in terms of aesthetics, this bike is terrible. the visible part of the frame sticks out and doesn't integrate into the lines of bike. the tank portion integrating into fairing is jarring and splits the tank line.

not sure how D could release such a design.
Click to expand...



It explaines the choice to extend the fairing into the tank. It would look worse had they not done that. Although I think it still looks good overall, and I did not say that when the spy shots came out. Perhaps it was the angle.

This bike is just not going to look as good in a single color as L-Twins.
 
Last edited:
AmpForE said:
It explaines the choice to extend the fairing into the tank. It would look worse had they not done that. Although I think it still looks good overall, and so did not say that when the spy shots came out. Perhaps it was the angle.

This bike is just not going to look as good in a single color as L-Twins.
Click to expand...

all depends on "how" they would cover that ugly frame; ie execution. another solution would be to work on design of actual frame -- right now it looks like a giant overlong tab. perhaps integrating it more into the engine and exposing said engine. anyhow. poor design.

or maybe integrate the tank into the frame -- a partially brushed aluminum tank echoing the frame. anyhow, no more free ideas for D. heh
 
Last edited:
VAST said:
all depends on "how" they would cover that ugly frame; ie execution. another solution would be to work on design of actual frame -- right now it looks like a giant overlong tab. perhaps integrating it more into the engine and exposing said engine. anyhow. poor design.

or maybe integrate the tank into the frame -- a partially brushed aluminum tank echoing the frame. anyhow, no more free ideas for D. heh
Click to expand...

I'd say it's an intentional design element. They've always tended to "show some leg" in revealing the hard parts they're proud of under the bodywork, and now they're wanting to emphasize their new frame design, and further differentiate the bike from the monocoque V-Twin. Peek a boo! :rolleyes:
 

Register CTA

Register on Ducati Forum! This sidebar will go away, and you will see fewer ads.

Recent Discussions

Back
Top