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Still a NO for me 
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It's all new and it's SWEET! There's a simulation of the dash in the video Ducati put out for the V4 Stradale engine:
https://youtu.be/8bxMyt4tIIA
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And just for the record, I don't think this is the most beautiful Superbike that Ducati has produced, but it looks WAY BETTER in person, as do most Ducatis. Once the bike hits the showroom floor, the way the bike looks will not be a hinderance for sales, what WILL be a hinderance for sales will be availability! This bike takes significantly more time to produce than the current Panigale and availability is going to be extremely tight this year, we aren't going to get anywhere near as many of these as we would like to have unfortunately.
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Yep still a no for me as well. Still ugly as hell.
Something tells me that Ducati are doing a naming scheme with their superbike range from now on, pretty much to line up with their entire range.
I.e. 'Panigale' will now be the name of all their future superbikes, and won't be going any major aesthetic design changes, just like how every new Monster or Multistrada looks very similar with the previous iteration. I'm guessing due to the success of the Panigale that they believe its design is unmistakably Ducati, much like the Monster and Multistrada. Is this a farewell to revolutionary aesthetic design changes? I'm hoping not.
I.e. 'Panigale' will now be the name of all their future superbikes, and won't be going any major aesthetic design changes, just like how every new Monster or Multistrada looks very similar with the previous iteration. I'm guessing due to the success of the Panigale that they believe its design is unmistakably Ducati, much like the Monster and Multistrada. Is this a farewell to revolutionary aesthetic design changes? I'm hoping not.
WELL........
Have to say I'm still on the fence and will have to see it in person. What's certain is it just doesn't have the same level of visual appeal that the 11/1299 has which is a shame. I would have loved seeing what Gianni Fabro would have done with the V4! Be that as it may, the racey grafics and outrageous HP of the Speciale are hard to argue with... but bottom line -I'm just not feeling the urge to run and give my dealer a deposit like I did for the 1199 or 1098.
On the technical side I'm thrilled they're moving forward to a new format. The Performance enhancements are awesome though Id never be able to approach the anything near the limits to compare. So-I will enjoy my twins "which are now worth more" #aircooledporsche style.
And speaking of money, any information on the price of the 3 v4 for us in the states?
Have to say I'm still on the fence and will have to see it in person. What's certain is it just doesn't have the same level of visual appeal that the 11/1299 has which is a shame. I would have loved seeing what Gianni Fabro would have done with the V4! Be that as it may, the racey grafics and outrageous HP of the Speciale are hard to argue with... but bottom line -I'm just not feeling the urge to run and give my dealer a deposit like I did for the 1199 or 1098.
On the technical side I'm thrilled they're moving forward to a new format. The Performance enhancements are awesome though Id never be able to approach the anything near the limits to compare. So-I will enjoy my twins "which are now worth more" #aircooledporsche style.
And speaking of money, any information on the price of the 3 v4 for us in the states?
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"Road mode shows Ducati Multimedia System (DMS) information". Oddly little if any mention has been made of this. Wonder if it is similar to what is I believe on the Multistroodle already, which would explain the Bluetooth capability that has been mentioned or hinted at. Perhaps JarelJ can elaborate on this?
Here is the full description:
"The Panigale V4 gets a new 5" full-TFT, high-res and high-brightness colour display, completely redesigned in terms of layout and graphics, including a new virtual circular rev-counter located on the right side.
Two different layouts are available: Track mode focuses attention on the lap time indicator, while Road mode shows Ducati Multimedia System (DMS) information, and highlights engine rpm values typical of road riding. Top speed, selected riding mode, and selected gear do not change position when the layout mode is changed."
Here is the full description:
"The Panigale V4 gets a new 5" full-TFT, high-res and high-brightness colour display, completely redesigned in terms of layout and graphics, including a new virtual circular rev-counter located on the right side.
Two different layouts are available: Track mode focuses attention on the lap time indicator, while Road mode shows Ducati Multimedia System (DMS) information, and highlights engine rpm values typical of road riding. Top speed, selected riding mode, and selected gear do not change position when the layout mode is changed."
Well, I guess those spy pictures where right on. Lol
My thoughts just from the pictures:
It looks good, but perhaps not in all red
I'm think I'm not going to like the "Twin Pulse" firing order. It will likely Vib more than the L-Twin
It will be as heavy as the rest of the bunch, but handle better due to the balance in the V4
I'm betting the heat issue will be considerably less, then again, maybe not.
I'd like to see the dash, I've not been to the site, just watched press release.
My thoughts just from the pictures:
It looks good, but perhaps not in all red
I'm think I'm not going to like the "Twin Pulse" firing order. It will likely Vib more than the L-Twin
It will be as heavy as the rest of the bunch, but handle better due to the balance in the V4
I'm betting the heat issue will be considerably less, then again, maybe not.
I'd like to see the dash, I've not been to the site, just watched press release.
yes. they sayed it haves bluetooth, and yo can send the music to your helmet and read your sms.
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Where did you read this? JarelJ do you know more info on this?
now reviewing it maybe i am wrong and i saw it in the multi 1200 enduro or scrambler 1100
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Jarel or anyone else who is scouring the internet. Have they released any actual chassis specs? IE, rake/trail head angle etc? Just curious where they may have made changes on that in conjunction with the new engine design. A little surprised at the lack of technical details. Seems like they just led with the power/weight figures. Which admittedly, are way more sexy.
front frame weights 4 kg. i ´m not sure about if it is magensium made..., rake 24 º, trail 98mm.
you can see the specs here.
https://www.ducati.com/ww/en/bikes/panigale/panigale-v4
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1409 v4 P/W = 0.55440414507772
1299 L2 P/W @ 205hp =0.55858310626703
1299 L2 corrected P/W @197 hp = 0.53678474114441
all things being equal the power to weight of the v4 is better . kinda makes you skeptical of the validity of said numbers though .
btw I think the video of the bike around the track makes it look much better this adds to Jarel's point of looking at it in person before judging IMO
again could someone explain why the V4 is called a 1409 my ocd is asking
1409 v4 P/W = 0.55440414507772
1299 L2 P/W @ 205hp =0.55858310626703
1299 L2 corrected P/W @197 hp = 0.53678474114441
all things being equal the power to weight of the v4 is better . kinda makes you skeptical of the validity of said numbers though .
btw I think the video of the bike around the track makes it look much better this adds to Jarel's point of looking at it in person before judging IMO
again could someone explain why the V4 is called a 1409 my ocd is asking
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