Why did Ducati change the Panigale V4R one week before release?
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Please don't pretend you haven't saw a photo of a Panigale with an undertail and that it didn't look exactly like the snip I posted.
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Exactly. The Panigale goes to lengths to keep the tail section super tidy and free of material, it just looks like a different bike when you put crap up there, in my opinion. If it was to gain horsepower or something- I’d be on board- but it just muddies the aesthetic and adds weight for nothing (since where I’m at in good ol Texas sound restrictions tracks are not a thing)
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IDK about that. It's, $45K w/o the $7.5K exhaust, so $52,500 without dealer fees or install charges.
A base V4, with arguably a better engine if you aren't in a race program, is $24k. On the same budget as above, you'd have $28,500 to sort out an exhaust, suspension, track parts etc.
A base V4, with arguably a better engine if you aren't in a race program, is $24k. On the same budget as above, you'd have $28,500 to sort out an exhaust, suspension, track parts etc.
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People who buy these that aren't tracking or racing them buy it for reasons that don't make much financial or logical sense.
It's usually an emotion based purchase. I have a base 1199 with a lot of upgrades. Probably close to 40k all in including the cost of the bike. I love the modification process and not much of a fan of buying a "finished" product. That said, if i had 50k i wouldn't lose sleep over, I'd buy one just for the sake of having an R. It doesn't really matter if one can put together a better overall bike with a base to start with. I'd probably still tinker with an R also. Having said all that, I'd never spend 50k on a motorcycle knowing that I'll modify parts on it too so this is all hypothetical. My owning a bike reasons don't make sense to most riders so I'm in a pretty small group of riders.
It's usually an emotion based purchase. I have a base 1199 with a lot of upgrades. Probably close to 40k all in including the cost of the bike. I love the modification process and not much of a fan of buying a "finished" product. That said, if i had 50k i wouldn't lose sleep over, I'd buy one just for the sake of having an R. It doesn't really matter if one can put together a better overall bike with a base to start with. I'd probably still tinker with an R also. Having said all that, I'd never spend 50k on a motorcycle knowing that I'll modify parts on it too so this is all hypothetical. My owning a bike reasons don't make sense to most riders so I'm in a pretty small group of riders.
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I don't fully agree with your first sentence. The poser crowd doesn't have the pocket for a R model, and those who do are likely the type able to afford trailers and track days etc.
I think if you'd have $50k of disposable income burning a hole in your pocket, I'd reach a little higher and buy a retired race platform which is way more sorted out than a homologated OEM bike.
There's no way a OEM Panigale R is even close to a finished product. You are going to have to sort out a lot of stuff. Be it springs, an exhaust, a tune, sliders and protection bits or whatever.
I think if you'd have $50k of disposable income burning a hole in your pocket, I'd reach a little higher and buy a retired race platform which is way more sorted out than a homologated OEM bike.
There's no way a OEM Panigale R is even close to a finished product. You are going to have to sort out a lot of stuff. Be it springs, an exhaust, a tune, sliders and protection bits or whatever.
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By finished product, i meant being handed an exact duplicate of my current bike instead of going through the mod phases. I'm not into the end result as much as i am the process of getting there and doing some of the work myself.
By no means is an R off the showroom floor a finished product. I mentioned that I'd still tinker with an R but the way it looks (not how it functions), as it stands, it's a great foundation to work with and if you really believe that an R isn't for the average rider who doesn't race or track, I'd assume you haven't lived in los angeles. There are plenty of R owners who just ride or commute their R. It's just something about the history of an R and ownership of one that speaks to some enthusiasts who aren't really interested in pushing its limits and riding one for what it's "supposed to be" ridden for. Not every premium trim car or bike owner cares much about racing or tracking their machine. Driving/riding it around town and/or commuting gives them the same excitement as the racer or track rider. I'm one of those in that small group. I'm not a bike night, parking lot at starbucks or stop n talk cars/bikes kinda guy.
By no means is an R off the showroom floor a finished product. I mentioned that I'd still tinker with an R but the way it looks (not how it functions), as it stands, it's a great foundation to work with and if you really believe that an R isn't for the average rider who doesn't race or track, I'd assume you haven't lived in los angeles. There are plenty of R owners who just ride or commute their R. It's just something about the history of an R and ownership of one that speaks to some enthusiasts who aren't really interested in pushing its limits and riding one for what it's "supposed to be" ridden for. Not every premium trim car or bike owner cares much about racing or tracking their machine. Driving/riding it around town and/or commuting gives them the same excitement as the racer or track rider. I'm one of those in that small group. I'm not a bike night, parking lot at starbucks or stop n talk cars/bikes kinda guy.
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^ Yea I would daily ride mine if I bought the R as then I would have 2 bikes again (Not counting my 901 Norden) where I could set one up for track days and leave it alone and the other I could ride the heck out of it.
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Actually their configurator is super accurate. You can even see the differences in swingarm length between Panigale and SF.
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Yeah, fancy +4 HP oil.
I'd love to see that tested by a 3rd party.BMW's new offerings are strong and Ducati drops an overpriced ugly duckling.
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I think I can guess what your buying decision is on the new V4R lol.
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