Why did Ducati change the Panigale V4R one week before release?

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bp_SFV4 said:
Yeah, fancy +4 HP oil. :rolleyes: I'd love to see that tested by a 3rd party.

BMW's new offerings are strong and Ducati drops an overpriced ugly duckling.
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Since you are not a V4r buyer then maybe it doesn't matter what you think- did I just say that NO....

Of course your opinion really really matters and I am writing to Claudio now because I am totally with you on this emotionally, I am as devastated actually just as you are; no seamless gearbox, not even a cheap cassette gearbox, no DSSA, no carbon brakes, no RS parts, a meagre 240hp when we knew it should have been 300, and and NO GOOD STUFF at all, I mean he is just messing with us here. Not one bit of chicken or a miserable latte, I havent stopped crying since it came out. This V4R is total ...., they should burn the factory down, put the designers on trial for being useless ......... and drive D11 Caterpillars over all Ducati stock worldwide. Ducati has finally jumped the shark with this outrageous el cheapo piece of junk. I am so glad I have a V4 that looks so different and performs so much better than a V4R
 
Much appreciated but i am happy with my crappy old V4 with an ugly pipe that ruins the lines.
 
I dont care, I agree it does looks ugly from certain angles.

But you dont look at them squatting down in perfect profile, you see them from the height your eyes looking down and then it looks good. The big problem is that they are not very crashable and I am not looking forward to having an off with it.
 
Paul G said:
Since you are not a V4r buyer then maybe it doesn't matter what you think- did I just say that NO....

Of course your opinion really really matters and I am writing to Claudio now because I am totally with you on this emotionally, I am as devastated actually just as you are; no seamless gearbox, not even a cheap cassette gearbox, no DSSA, no carbon brakes, no RS parts, a meagre 240hp when we knew it should have been 300, and and NO GOOD STUFF at all, I mean he is just messing with us here. Not one bit of chicken or a miserable latte, I havent stopped crying since it came out. This V4R is total ...., they should burn the factory down, put the designers on trial for being useless ......... and drive D11 Caterpillars over all Ducati stock worldwide. Ducati has finally jumped the shark with this outrageous el cheapo piece of junk. I am so glad I have a V4 that looks so different and performs so much better than a V4R
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Someone jumped the shark. lol
 
So much jumping on the the new R threads, the fanboys are losing their ....! Most people buying them (unless top racers) are going to struggle getting to the end of a well set up R simply because there is a shortage of good tracks for superbikes like this to stretch out, and if you're on a shorter track a well ridden and set up 05 gixxer will be in the same ballpark as we have seen because rider skill is 95% of going fast on track. An R is not just about being a boy racer, its an emotional purchase, a reward, a display for the foyer or whatever- doesnt matter

For me the big question is are the front forks electronic or not, because if so that is a major direction change signalling the superiority of suspension electronics for the track. There are no references to it in the blurb so the configurator may be a frankenstein creation.
 
shortage of good tracks.....jerez, Aragon, Brno, Barcelona, le mans, Silverstone, Donington, yeah....
 
Its only electric forks too. The renders all have the expected manually adjustable shock. Likely just an oversight by the marketing department.
 
KarlKani said:
correct and the forks are correct. So they had one for the presentation, but the one on the site is a V4S. Its strange...
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bp_SFV4 said:
It’s only electric forks too. The renders all have the expected manually adjustable shock. Likely just an oversight by the marketing department.
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I’d have to agree that someone running the configurator dropped the ball. Most likely they skinned the V4S template and forgot to change the forks. Apart from the wheels, shock, and rear bank exhaust cover, everything stays the same and there’s just exposure changes. C2D1E626-4FFD-49EC-A1CD-16A22AFA4260.gif
 
And in true Ducati fashion… let’s break down the 240 hp claim…. Is that at the wheel? I don’t think so ..
Is that after a few conversions to get to the crank.., like putting it 20000 feet below sea level or something… and as for 4 hp from oil…. Ffs!
 
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Holy shitballs, this is seizure material
 
andyb said:
shortage of good tracks.....jerez, Aragon, Brno, Barcelona, le mans, Silverstone, Donington, yeah....
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...Misano, Mugello, Imola, Ferrari Circuit (all within 2 hours drive), Monza...
Most of them are sold in Italy. After Italy the #2 stat I got from Claudio D. a few years ago was '25% of all sales outside of Italy went to California.' I never saw an R at a Starbucks in SF though. Things may have changed. Not sure.
 

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