uneven maintenance throttle

[noamkrief]

Hey everyone. 3 week old ducati 1200 miles.

When I cruising around in 2nd gear 5-6000pm the throttle is very uneven. The bike sort of wants to go forward, and slow down. It's very jerky.
In 3rd gear it's less noticeable, and in 1st gear it's almost scary.

I tried today to see if the problem still exists at higher rpm. Took the bike to about 7k in 1st gear and the bike either wants to jump forward or slow down.

I haven't had this problem for the first 2 weeks since I've been cruising around at 3-4000 rpm range in 3rd gear mostly which this jerkiness is not noticeable.

When I do some "fun" riding around some back roads, corners in 2nd gear that require maintenance throttle at around 50mph are quite unnerving because the bike gets forward-aft imbalance due the the inability to maintain steady state speed.

I'm running 195Lo mode on the defaul sport setting.

Needless to say, my S1000RR and GSX-R600 don't suffer this issue whatsoever.

Thoughts?

PS - great bike but it's slow TURD up until 8000rpm where HOLLY CRAP it's fast!!! 5k RPM full open throttle in 3rd gear could use alot more torque. Getting the full termi system next week! Hopefully that will help.

 

[kensteele]

mine jerks around too. but i thought it was just me (the rider). 195HI

 

[iamlance]

I just spent 2K on a slip on to eliminate this issue. It helped some. Not 2K worth.

 

[George Villar]

The throttle by wire system is very sensitive no matter what setting you have it in. I highly recommend for those of you having this problem to STOP giving your throttle the death grip. In other words: you riders that keep your elbows straight while riding to support your self from the bars. The bars are for steering not to hold on for dear life with Kung Fu grip. THROTTLE CONTROL!!!!!

Use your legs, clamp on to the tank, relieve the pressure from the bars and the throttle won't be erratic. Invest in StompGrip pads and buy a copy of Twist of the Wrist 2.

 

[Phl]

if anyone needs a copy of that book, shoot me a pm.

 

[iamlance]

The throttle by wire system is very sensitive no matter what setting you have it in. I highly recommend for those of you having this problem to STOP giving your throttle the death grip. In other words: you riders that keep your elbows straight while riding to support your self from the bars. The bars are for steering not to hold on for dear life with Kung Fu grip. THROTTLE CONTROL!!!!!

Use your legs, clamp on to the tank, relieve the pressure from the bars and the throttle won't be erratic. Invest in StompGrip pads and buy a copy of Twist of the Wrist 2.

If that were the case, wouldn't you have the issue at all RPM's?

 

[lardawge]

For those of you who insist on blaming it on the rider, you're wrong. It is an actual known issue. I spoke with Mark, a master ducati tech at pro-italia, who can verify that the problem exists. It can also be minimized by the dealer making adjustments to the tbw, which, for me, got rid of 90% of the problem. The other 10% is a lean condition caused by emission control. There are still times it is noticeable but 1st gear is now usable.

Sorry to burst your superior rider bubble.

 

[George Villar]

I call ......... The dealer cannot go into the ECU with the Ducati DDS2 and change throttle tables. Only the Superstock ECU and race harness will allow you to do that. I know this as a FACT.

 

[George Villar]

By the way, I was only trying to help. I don't see myself as a superior rider actually. I'm always learning and breaking newer barriers as I ride faster and faster. I'm glad your dealer fixed your throttle issue. You should still read a copy of the book though. And take a pill for your attitude.

 

[iamlance]

I call ......... The dealer cannot go into the ECU with the Ducati DDS2 and change throttle tables. Only the Superstock ECU and race harness will allow you to do that. I know this as a FACT.

Dealer had my bike for this issue for 28 days. They claimed there DDS was updated and that enabled them to do something with the issue. I believe it was somewhat better, but after 28 days I was so glad to get the bike back, I could be wrong!

 

[Marcbc]

By the way, I was only trying to help. I don't see myself as a superior rider actually. I'm always learning and breaking newer barriers as I ride faster and faster. I'm glad your dealer fixed your throttle issue. You should still read a copy of the book though. And take a pill for your attitude.

No death grip here but do have the issue between 4k and 4.5k, badly enough to gear to a point outside of that range. Defo not a rider issue for my bike.

 

[lardawge]

I call ......... The dealer cannot go into the ECU with the Ducati DDS2 and change throttle tables. Only the Superstock ECU and race harness will allow you to do that. I know this as a FACT.

Call ........ all you want, doesn't change reality.

 

[lardawge]

By the way, I was only trying to help. I don't see myself as a superior rider actually. I'm always learning and breaking newer barriers as I ride faster and faster. I'm glad your dealer fixed your throttle issue. You should still read a copy of the book though. And take a pill for your attitude.

Maybe find out a little about me before you spew venom. I have actually done all four levels at the school of the guy who wrote the book. I am simply clarifying that there is a real issue and something that can help minimize it.

Me thinks your the one with the 'tude sir so maybe grab a few of them pills before you pass the bottle around.

 

[MacaveliMC]

I've noticed the throttle is somewhat difficult to roll on as well without a sudden jerk. I'll fall into a turn, and it takes a lot of discipline to get a clean roll on. Not sure what to do about this.

 

[George Villar]

The guy you speak of is Keith Code, I'm glad you took Level 4. (so have thousands of people, I'm one of them too). Hope to see you at The Streets at Willow track some day.

 

[lardawge]

Hope to see you at The Streets at Willow track some day.

Only if you relinquish the snarky attitude.

 

[TricoloreSF]

sorry George, it is a known issue and, from an unbiased perspective, i gotta agree with the others that your initial post made a lot of assumptions re: a lack of specific rider skills and "death grips". You probably didn't mean it to come off that way, but it does read as a bit rough around the edges.

cheers

 

[George Villar]

I am a bit rough around the edges"¦..

 

[rm4two]

The throttle by wire system is very sensitive no matter what setting you have it in. I highly recommend for those of you having this problem to STOP giving your throttle the death grip. In other words: you riders that keep your elbows straight while riding to support your self from the bars. The bars are for steering not to hold on for dear life with Kung Fu grip. THROTTLE CONTROL!!!!!

Use your legs, clamp on to the tank, relieve the pressure from the bars and the throttle won't be erratic. Invest in StompGrip pads and buy a copy of Twist of the Wrist 2.

+1 For me this is only a problem on rough uneven roads or when riding in a low gear at high RPMs and trying to maintain that RPM. The fueling is crappy indeed, but I don't have this surging problem, not that I can blame on the bike anyway

 

[rm4two]

BTW, I don't see any problem with George's post. It was very informative and to the point.