1199 R Superleggera

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Sloopy said:
This is incorrect. Ducati recently held a dealer meeting, asking them for customer names. From what I know, the depth of the pockets, or perception of such was considered. I was informed that I would be getting a call, however my representative knows no more about the bike than what is being shared here.
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In your opinion. However before you try and correct me and state my communication as incorrect. It would be more prudent to ask further questions, then simply try and shoot me down in ignorance. I am very well aware of the recent dealer meeting, and the outcome of it. My communication obviously comes *AFTER* the dealer meeting.

Did you even consider that I might of been referring to the fact that the 500 bikes have at the time of writing been allocated to dealers .. huh ? Probably not.

So lets see if you get a 1199R SL Sloopy.
 
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anthem said:
The bike is more like the 1098R than the Desmo.. It's not a desmo/motogp replica bike. . It's a higher performance derivative of the current panigale. So comparisons to the 1098R are more appropriate than the one off Desmo.
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That's a great point. I was hoping for something more groundbreaking and I guess some of the acrimony heard here so far is a result of that. Again, I'll wait to pass final judgement but I'll probably end up getting it and destroying it on the track...cuz I'm a sucker like that for Ducs.

Same noise made about the Tri and for the R but didn't stop me. :confused:
 
Ducati 1199 Panigale R Superleggera. An ultra-exclusive version of the Ducati 1199 Panigale R, the Superleggera edition is exactly what its Italian name suggests, a super-light version of the Panigale R.
With the Panigale R already the lightest sport bike to ever come from Ducati, the Panigale R Superleggera goes even further, employing titanium, carbon fiber, and magnesium throughout the machine to drop its curb weight by an additional 40 lbs. Ducati isn't stopping there though.
 
George Villar said:
Correction 1199 Panigale RR

Hmmmmm"¦ keep it. The claimed 195hp as we all know is more like 168-170 to the rear wheel = the 220hp claim means it may make 180 RWHP.

George Villar
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Please explain your logic here. My assumption is you're attempting to correlate the difference in crank horsepower from RWHP in the current Panigale to this rumored PanigaleRR; however, your differentials are not consistent. The current Panigale has a crank horsepower to RWHP differential of 25 HP, yet your math indicates a differential of 40 HP for the rumored PanigaleRR.

If we assume the differential will remain consistent, the new model should actually have a RWHP around 195 HP. Considering several people here have posted peak RWHP numbers over 170, the Panigale RR could end up turning out more than 200HP with a 40 lb. reduction in weight. That's essentially MotoGP territory, which brings me to my next question: what other manufacturer is producing a street legal bike with a MotoGP power to weight ratio for under $65k?
 
Duck41 said:
Please explain your logic here. My assumption is you're attempting to correlate the difference in crank horsepower from RWHP in the current Panigale to this rumored PanigaleRR; however, your differentials are not consistent. The current Panigale has a crank horsepower to RWHP differential of 25 HP, yet your math indicates a differential of 40 HP for the rumored PanigaleRR.

If we assume the differential will remain consistent, the new model should actually have a RWHP around 195 HP. Considering several people here have posted peak RWHP numbers over 170, the Panigale RR could end up turning out more than 200HP with a 40 lb. reduction in weight. That's essentially MotoGP territory, which brings me to my next question: what other manufacturer is producing a street legal bike with a MotoGP power to weight ratio for under $65k?
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I was making fun of Ducati's claims on HP. MY 1199 race bike makes 191.1 to the rear wheel with MWR/RapidBIKE RACE/Full Termi, etc. and much dyno tuning time. I just doubt the claim of 210-220 BHP. I still think the bike will make a lot less HP to the rear wheel. MotoGP bikes make 260 BHP, and have less weight. So you mean WSBK power to weight ratio.
 
The current MotoGP minimum weight limit is 353 lbs, with most bikes running in the 230-250 HP range.
 
Duck41 said:
The current MotoGP minimum weight limit is 353 lbs, with most bikes running in the 230-250 HP range.
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Yes, and here is the proof from the 2013 IAA in Frankfurt:


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