1299 Base vs. 1299S

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The only thing that I would want off the S is the Led lights, but you can mod it like the boys did to their 1199's. Save yourself the $5K imo.

Or like chris said get a R1
 
fzr100098 said:
$23k? Sheesh, I though $21k (retail OTD) was steep - I hate paying retail for anything
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Yeah I didn't haggle to much as I wasn't ready to buy but wanted a idea... I think the opinions people have posted are good, I'm leaning towards the S myself... But I'm NOT paying $27K.. Good things to think about.. I'm of the opinion if your thinking about getting the S Do it, seems to me price wise even when u haggle if a Standard 1299 can go for $19k OTD then a S model can go for about $24k OTD.. Am I to far off?.... I don't think you can go wrong with either 1299 between your legs....... Thoughts?
 
fzr100098 said:
Why (short version)?
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Almost identical power.
Likely to be more reliable.
Just as light.
Arguably better electronics (6-axis IMU vs 3 for the 1299).
Same power delivery due to the crossplane motor.
Aftermarket parts and technical data will much easier to find and much cheaper due to it being a Jap bike.
It costs $8k less.
 
Chaotic said:
Almost identical power.
Likely to be more reliable.
Just as light.
Arguably better electronics (6-axis IMU vs 3 for the 1299).
Same power delivery due to the crossplane motor.
Aftermarket parts and technical data will much easier to find and much cheaper due to it being a Jap bike.
It costs $8k less.
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All true and now I am trying not to second guess myself.
 
Not as much torque though, esp low and midrange (where you use it on the street)
 
If you are buying for the street only I would get the S model. The LED Lights the 1299s elec suspension and so many other things make it a street king. If you are going to track and street as I do, I say base model. You can also look at the R1. Everything Chris(Chaotic) listed is correct as far as similarities. None of the these choices would be a bad choice honestly.
 
I am in the same predicament...no clue what bike I want. 1199S $18,500 OTD, 1299 Base roughly 20,500 OTD. Only things I like about the 1299S are the lighter wheels and ohlins is nice too... Personally don't care much about the electronic suspension, as I won't use it much, and more technology = more stuff that can break. I think Base makes more sense for street and track use. In my opinion the money saved is better spent elsewhere...for a myriad of reasons. There are however a few exceptions (keeping a motorcycle for a long period of time, money is no object, etc).
 
I have seen some model bashing which is confusing because Ducati offers 3 open class models but you cannot categorize them as good, better, best. It depends on your personal preference, monetary situation, street riding vs. track riding or even racing. Buy what is right you and your riding needs and forget what the magazines are saying this month because in less than a year there will be a different latest, greatest, lightest, fastest motorcycle that the editors are touting as the latest, greatest, lightest, fastest, best sport bike ever.
 
By almost all accounts the new R1 is the latest, greatest, and fastest (on track, not straight line speed) with the best electronics package. However, the 1299 torque is addicting on the street, plus it's beautiful and R1 looks like something out of a Tron movie. If I could find another R1 for under $15k it would be tough to pass up
 
Get the base. You can get LED headlights in many places or simply do a $150 LED bulb swap. You can buy an Ohlins rear shock cheap. Or buy an electronic TTX like I did on the cheap and have the ex-Ohlins guy swap it back to a sweet looking manual. I have his info if you'd like. Then you can buy Marchesini "S" wheels for $2k or LESS. so all in, you can get the base with the same motor as the S and R, upgrade what you'd like, and still a grand or 2 or 3. That was my thinking anyways. Plus I got the TuneBoy on a big sale with auto-blipping quickshifter and it's highly tunable unlike the oem one.

My $.02 :D
 
fzr100098 said:
A large part?

The amazing engine, chassis, low weight, electronics package, and handling is what makes this bike so much fun on the street.



Ducati loves people like you. Unless you truly have tons of disposable income, $5k (actually it's $6k) isn't "nothing"

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Hi my name is David
I never said in David's world 5k is nothing
But I recognize you were calling me stupid because I am willing to spend the extra money Ducati loves me translation you're stupid
I paid $23490 +$780 for my S. So I think I did great on my purchase. I do however love the extras I got with the s and that plays a large part in why I'm enjoying the bike. I can't imagine how someone can fault me for that and insult me for liking the wheels and suspension.
In ducati world 5k is the price of exhaust. It's something new buyers need to be warned about imo.
I do however have a fair amount of money not sure again how that is a source of insult My bikes paid for and I think I got a good deal. If it's ok with you lll continue to love the choices made with zero regrets Forgive me if I'm not feeling like the stupid one
 
You're reading way too much into it, I never called you stupid - enjoy your bike
 
I went through this same process 18 months ago before I bought mine, I was actually looking at an 1198 but test rides quickly put that idea to bed. Initially I was leaning toward the base, didn't think I needed the extras that the S offered but I agree with Chris in that if you think you might want the S then get it, that was what swayed me in the end, I bought the S because I knew that I would regret the base every time I saw an S. It took some time to convince the other half that an extra $5K was required for the bike and not needed for a holiday but I got there in the end.

Cheers
JT
 
Chaotic said:
That is a real TTX shock and NIX-30 forks (think 30mm Cartridge Kit). In other words, it IS track/race suspension. All it needs is to be properly sprung and maybe some valving work based upon personal preference.

And there is no single modification that has more affect than lightweight wheels. That is the one mod that affects acceleration, braking, side-to-side transitions, top speed...everything.

Then there are the controls on the left bar.

I am only saying that the comment of "Realistically nothing on the S model is any more track than a base with upgraded suspension" isn't entirely accurate. The wheels are a HUGE bonus (and the primary reason I went with the S).

IMO, all of that stuff is unnecessary and overkill for the street. But then again, a Panigale in and of itself is overkill for the street. So at the end of the day, all that really matters is what somebody wants and can pay for.

As previously stated by Mr. Rogue, basically everyone will just suggest getting what they got (that should be expected). I am just saying that if I was purchasing one KNOWING it would be a street bike, I would get the Base. Then I would use the extra $5-6k for an exhaust a tuner and gearing.
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I originally typed revalved then I typed reworked then I replaced it with upgraded. But I get what you're saying. I agree with what you're saying I just believe it's really what a person wants more than how capable the base vs s is. Not sure the el suspension would be useful on a track without modification or maybe even just running it fixed.
 
There's clearly only one right answer, get the R.

For a street only bike I actually really like the idea of the electronic suspension. The LED lights are also super trick. The wheels don't really matter much to me for street use. I've already ordered a set of base wheels for street use for my R so that I'm not beating up the good forged wheels when racking up street miles. It will also help save money on rubber in the long run to have a second set of wheels.
 
I bought a Base 1199 because I did not what all the extra electronic crap, abs, and the extra weight that goes with it, and even though the S wheels are lighter, I don't like the chicken foot design.
 
Sergio1199Panigale said:
Get the base. You can get LED headlights in many places or simply do a $150 LED bulb swap. You can buy an Ohlins rear shock cheap. Or buy an electronic TTX like I did on the cheap and have the ex-Ohlins guy swap it back to a sweet looking manual. I have his info if you'd like. Then you can buy Marchesini "S" wheels for $2k or LESS. so all in, you can get the base with the same motor as the S and R, upgrade what you'd like, and still a grand or 2 or 3. That was my thinking anyways. Plus I got the TuneBoy on a big sale with auto-blipping quickshifter and it's highly tunable unlike the oem one.

My $.02 :D
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Not a bad thought process...
 

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