2018 Ducati V4 Its real, well at least the motor

shakazulu12 · Jun 24, 2017

Milepost said:
The 84mm bore size previously mentioned doesn't make much sense to me. Unless there are two distinct variations of the V4 motor that will share some external parts...

84MM bore - Makes perfect sense for a 1200-1300 V4 sportbike or power cruiser and maybe even a true sports tourer too. But...IMO The engine cases would be then be too big and heavy for 1000CC class SBK, which is limited to a 81mm bore.

So I'm thinking that Ducati must be working on a couple similar but different V4 engines. One for competing in WSBK and another will be for high torque street platforms that will be premiering a few years down the road. Pretty smart move considering that Euro V is coming.

One of the articles mentioned that the base engine will be a 1200cc motor, and that the "R" version will be a 1000cc motor for WSBK requirements.

cycler · Jun 25, 2017

Twistedracer said:
Oh but cycler says his friend has one

OK OK you guys got me. hahaha. Now can we move on

cycler · Jun 25, 2017

Kevin1199 said:
Ok ok....... I'm going to get in so much trouble for this, but..... cycler's friend wasn't the only one with a 1299R. It was supposed to be a super secret model

And yes you got me too haha. I can take the ribbing when I make an ass of myself and write the wrong thing. Would have been better if it were april fools

hu8742 · Jun 28, 2017

The picture on the front cover of InMoto looks awesome - those termi's look nice. That's a great looking bike, even if its not a million miles from the 1299, who cares.

I just hope that Ducati opt for lightness/agility/handling over power. Oh and style too (please no massive Euro4/5 side exhausts, I want those underslung ones!)

szczypek · Jun 28, 2017

some more from todays leak

Wallaroo · Jun 28, 2017

Doesnt somebody owe me a hundred bucks

Halo2 · Jun 28, 2017

I reckon this will be worth buying a, when do they usually announce the finished bike from when spy shots are gathered.

Rogue · Jun 28, 2017

Wallaroo said:
Doesnt somebody owe me a hundred bucks

That would be me. PM a PP address.

I'll do my best to stimulate the AUD to get it back on par with the USD.

royal · Jun 28, 2017

Halo2 said:
I reckon this will be worth buying a, when do they usually announce the finished bike from when spy shots are gathered.

It will usually be announced at the shows in Italy in September and released early 2017. The R version a year later.

Wallaroo · Jun 28, 2017

Rogue said:
That would be me. PM a PP address.

I'll do my best to stimulate the AUD to get it back on par with the USD.

All good mate, keep your hundred, cant take money off another Ducati rider, just aint right

jarelj · Jun 28, 2017

hu8742 said:
I just hope that Ducati opt for lightness/agility/handling over power.

I wish this was the world we lived in............ it's not. When's the last time you saw a motorcycle magazine praise a bike for it's lightness and handling and say "this bike's better even though it has less power"? Never. It's power, that's all the "market" cares about. And not even "real world" power, it's dyno graph power. Just look at all of the comparison articles, dyno shootouts, etc. It's the default conversation for people who can't ride (i.e. most motojournalists) because it's objective. Handling, agility, etc. are subjective. If I had MY way, we'd have a 130hp 599 Panigale twin. That would be the shiz-nitz!

RD16RR · Jun 28, 2017

jarelj said:
I wish this was the world we lived in............ it's not. When's the last time you saw a motorcycle magazine praise a bike for it's lightness and handling and say "this bike's better even though it has less power"? Never. It's power, that's all the "market" cares about. And not even "real world" power, it's dyno graph power. Just look at all of the comparison articles, dyno shootouts, etc. It's the default conversation for people who can't ride (i.e. most motojournalists) because it's objective. Handling, agility, etc. are subjective. If I had MY way, we'd have a 130hp 599 Panigale twin. That would be the shiz-nitz!

...or a 599 SuperMono (with the 130hp of course)

Rogue · Jun 28, 2017

Wallaroo said:
All good mate, keep your hundred, cant take money off another Ducati rider, just aint right

Then pick a charity. A deal is a deal.

You hear this guy Jarel? Stop taking my money.

shakazulu12 · Jun 28, 2017

I had a feeling that the frameless design was a goner with Gigi around.

Rogue · Jun 28, 2017

shakazulu12 said:
I had a feeling that the frameless design was a goner with Gigi around.

Yep. Everyone said the SSSA was a goner as well.

shakazulu12 · Jun 28, 2017

jarelj said:
I wish this was the world we lived in............ it's not. When's the last time you saw a motorcycle magazine praise a bike for it's lightness and handling and say "this bike's better even though it has less power"? Never. It's power, that's all the "market" cares about. And not even "real world" power, it's dyno graph power. Just look at all of the comparison articles, dyno shootouts, etc. It's the default conversation for people who can't ride (i.e. most motojournalists) because it's objective. Handling, agility, etc. are subjective. If I had MY way, we'd have a 130hp 599 Panigale twin. That would be the shiz-nitz!

Have you ever had any of those Kramer bikes show up at any of your track events? They look kind of like what many............ok, maybe like 4 people, wish existed.

hu8742 · Jun 28, 2017

jarelj said:
I wish this was the world we lived in............ it's not. When's the last time you saw a motorcycle magazine praise a bike for it's lightness and handling and say "this bike's better even though it has less power"? Never. It's power, that's all the "market" cares about. And not even "real world" power, it's dyno graph power. Just look at all of the comparison articles, dyno shootouts, etc. It's the default conversation for people who can't ride (i.e. most motojournalists) because it's objective. Handling, agility, etc. are subjective. If I had MY way, we'd have a 130hp 599 Panigale twin. That would be the shiz-nitz!

Agreed. Just wouldn't want them to ruin the handling for the sake of more BHP (and weight) when in reality the 1299 ain't exactly lacking power.

jarelj · Jun 28, 2017

shakazulu12 said:
Have you ever had any of those Kramer bikes show up at any of your track events? They look kind of like what many............ok, maybe like 4 people, wish existed.

No, but those look pretty awesome. I've always lusted after a Pierobon or NCR also. Seriously considered building a Pierobon with a 400 scrambler engine for the Ultralight race class, and finally came to my senses on that.

shakazulu12 · Jun 28, 2017

jarelj said:
No, but those look pretty awesome. I've always lusted after a Pierobon or NCR also. Seriously considered building a Pierobon with a 400 scrambler engine for the Ultralight race class, and finally came to my senses on that.

I drool over some of the Pierobon pics on FB all the time. Love what they do. If I had ".... you" money, I would absolutely have an x60r.

NW1299 · Jun 28, 2017

jarelj said:
If I had MY way, we'd have a 130hp 599 Panigale twin. That would be the shiz-nitz!

I would buy the .... out of that motorcycle

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