2023 V4R // 2023 SEASON

Radiator envy for sure!

Glad I could see it under the knife, that airbox looked daunting.

Make sure to send me a text for the break in track day, even if it is last minute, have to witness this thing in anger.

Kev242 said:

Radiator envy for sure!

Glad I could see it under the knife, that airbox looked daunting.

Make sure to send me a text for the break in track day, even if it is last minute, have to witness this thing in anger.

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^^^this weekend NYST

Mate, job looks good! Hope the first ride is problem free and enjoyable.

I'm very interested to hear how it handles with the new geometry. Did you adjust the geometry on your old V4R much?

thanks man!
I only really adjusted geometry via suspension
but this is looking very different, I am going to adjust sag and go do some laps - nothing else for now

KarlKani said:

here is where I left it last night

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Looking bad ... my friend!!! Nice job

KarlKani said:

thanks man!
I only really adjusted geometry via suspension
but this is looking very different, I am going to adjust sag and go do some laps - nothing else for now

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Let us know what you think. Hoping mine comes in soon!

zoooo coool thread.
Indeed, you have good friends. I would need therapy before cracking open layers 10mins after getting her home.
Though if track days were approaching with parts sitting on the bench... Ready, go!

How is the oil? Is it coming special Shell ”extrahorsepoweroil”….
btw ..chain 525 or 520?

Sutki said:

How is the oil? Is it coming special Shell ”extrahorsepoweroil”….
btw ..chain 525 or 520?

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I know the shell oil is not avail to purchase yet, from what I here it is same as Motul 0W30 300v
Didnt check but pretty sure chain is 520

The 2023 V4R manual is on line at ducati.com and in that it talks of
the rear shock eye to eye as the same as the previous model, yet the initial bumf says its longer from 312 to 316...increasing the rear height by 20mm. The manual says if a performance exhaust is fitted not to go longer than 315... and the pic of the shock bottom eye with that machined band exposed as a limit mark..
the front forks it says are 5mm longer travel than the previous yet it says 125.
Swing arm pivot as std in the +1 position

be good to physically see exactly which it is..rather than the contradictory information

KarlKani said:

I know the shell oil is not avail to purchase yet, from what I here it is same as Motul 0W30 300v
Didnt check but pretty sure chain is 520

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I understand from my dealer that it’s specifically for the R/can only be run with a dry clutch. Your dealer should be able to supply it to you.

We were going to try it in my 23 base but given it’s still running the std wet clutch I’m sticking with 300v. It would have been a interesting test with back to back dyno runs.

So got the bike all sorted and was able to get a halfday in at NJMP Thunderbolt yesterday. This is a very different bike to the previous 19/20 V4R. Before the I got it on track I had a small issue with a DTC error thrown by a LIN code due to BSD left hand switch, I had to use the OEM LH switch cluster so I could ride which I didnt mind but what is annoying is that the OEM LH switches require a seating post. You cannot just bolt onto another bar. Since I didnt want to deal with drilling a hole and inserting pin into LH spider bar I just threw the OEM LH bar and with cluster back on. Weird to have 1 OEM clip on and 1 Spider clip on, but I just needed to shake the bike down and make sure everything was up working correctly. In regard to the LH BSD switch, it was the orig LH V4R switch, I know the switch has changed in design, not sure if the connection has also changed. I know Mick is not selling the LH V4R or V4 switches rn due to supply chain issues, but I will check with him on compatibility for new bike.

Here is what I noticed about the new bike:
+Geometry is VERY different, when riding and even just throwing a leg over
-I have Race Seats It flat seat on and I am on my tippy toes when standing over - I am 6ft tall, seat feels great, its taller in the front so I am a bit more on top of the bike but not in a bad way but does require flatter back when crawling around on bike changing direction
-Felt quite stiff, was expecting it to feel softer just because of off the floor suspension settings. I did not even set sag which his crazy but I was working on the bike till 1230 the night before to get it ridable and wasn't mad at seeing what it felt like touching nothing. I went a little softer front
and back after the first 2 sessions only to go a little stiffer on the forks after I started picking up speed.
+Gearing is VERY different, I know those of you who have the newer V4 bikes have been experiencing this but I think they took it even further on the R. Multiple corners I was dropping into 1st, shifting is PRECISE - after a few high speed drops from 3rd to 1st not concerned about the 2nd to 1st drop
+Power was noticeably refined, I rode it in High (full/dynamic) as I was just testing the waters. Next weekend I will use FULL and see the difference
+EBC I started in 2 and dropped to 1 (least). Previous bike I was always in 1 mostly because it would reset after every use due to the I2M interface. At 2 the EBC was pushing the front at corner entry
+Bike felt great at corner exit, surprisingly the geometry + shock (w/ 80nm spring) felt solid and planted even with me being about 10 lbs heavier then I should be (195lbs)

Overall very good first outing, I have never done this much to a new bike, esp a brand new bike. Lots to finesse, looking forward to getting more time on this bike. The best comparison I can make between the previous + current V4R is:
-2019/20 was a first step race bike on brand new platform
-23 bike is so refined it is really something, while the release seemed to not be as much as many of us were looking for. After riding it is a really big difference

**Now caveat is that I have not ridden a 22 V4, I maybe would have had the same comments about that. Will be interesting when @RickD996 is able to throw a leg over one

No on track images yet, should have by end of day

Hey Karl, looks like a great first day!

Be interesting to see how your lap times compare, when you're more adjusted and comfortable on the bike, with your old bike.

I may ask you for some specific measurements soon!

Yeah def did not even mess with the DDA or lap times of any sort

KarlKani said:

Here is what I noticed about the new bike:
+Geometry is VERY different, when riding and even just throwing a leg over
-I have Race Seats It flat seat on and I am on my tippy toes when standing over - I am 6ft tall, seat feels great, its taller in the front so I am a bit more on top of the bike but not in a bad way but does require flatter back when crawling around on bike changing direction
-Felt quite stiff, was expecting it to feel softer just because of off the floor suspension settings. I did not even set sag which his crazy but I was working on the bike till 1230 the night before to get it ridable and wasn't mad at seeing what it felt like touching nothing. I went a little softer front
and back after the first 2 sessions only to go a little stiffer on the forks after I started picking up speed.
+Gearing is VERY different, I know those of you who have the newer V4 bikes have been experiencing this but I think they took it even further on the R. Multiple corners I was dropping into 1st, shifting is PRECISE - after a few high speed drops from 3rd to 1st not concerned about the 2nd to 1st drop
+Power was noticeably refined, I rode it in High (full/dynamic) as I was just testing the waters. Next weekend I will use FULL and see the difference
+EBC I started in 2 and dropped to 1 (least). Previous bike I was always in 1 mostly because it would reset after every use due to the I2M interface. At 2 the EBC was pushing the front at corner entry
+Bike felt great at corner exit, surprisingly the geometry + shock (w/ 80nm spring) felt solid and planted even with me being about 10 lbs heavier then I should be (195lbs)

Overall very good first outing, I have never done this much to a new bike, esp a brand new bike. Lots to finesse, looking forward to getting more time on this bike. The best comparison I can make between the previous + current V4R is:
-2019/20 was a first step race bike on brand new platform
-23 bike is so refined it is really something, while the release seemed to not be as much as many of us were looking for. After riding it is a really big difference

**Now caveat is that I have not ridden a 22 V4, I maybe would have had the same comments about that. Will be interesting when @RickD996 is able to throw a leg over one

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Not sure how the prev version of the V4 was, but rear preload changes seem to make a big difference. My experience is just on street so far but can imagine it’s even more pronounced on track (next track day for me is 6/16).

You’re running a 80 Nm at 190 lbs fully kitted? I thought stock spring was 85. I’m running an 80 spring and only 150 lbs with stock preload. Also on tippy toes with the stock seat. I’m a little worried I’ll have to Pedrosa it when putting on the RaceSeat.it one.

1-3rd gears are super close ratio with 1st being pretty long. I’ve so far no problems getting into 1st. In fact on street, best way to take inspection corners is in 1st.

SuperDomestique said:

Not sure how the prev version of the V4 was, but rear preload changes seem to make a big difference. My experience is just on street so far but can imagine it’s even more pronounced on track (next track day for me is 6/16).

You’re running a 80 Nm at 190 lbs fully kitted? I thought stock spring was 85. I’m running an 80 spring and only 150 lbs with stock preload. Also on tippy toes with the stock seat. I’m a little worried I’ll have to Pedrosa it when putting on the RaceSeat.it one.

1-3rd gears are super close ratio with 1st being pretty long. I’ve so far no problems getting into 1st. In fact on street, best way to take inspection corners is in 1st.

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Don't forget, preload doesn't effect spring rate. It's biggest impact, is on ride height.

So to bust a few myths concerning the 2023 rear suspension,


So the Rocker, tie rods, upper shock , lower shock mount and swing arm are the same as the previous V4R. The spring will be whatever the owner decides, yes as a std item it was changed, the std pivot position is different. The only bit I can't find is the std length of the shock eye to eye. Which is confusing when you look at the 2023 V4R owners manual. That bit appears to be the same as the previous model.
Interestingly the V4R upper shock mount No 14, is a different part number to the other V4 models. The rocker is on the std V4 2020 on. There are changes to the tie rods 2020 on
to match the R, although the 22 base tie rods appear a different part number.

Sorry what myth did you just bust?

Seems like Andy added more myths than anything haha