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Seems like Andy added more myths than anything haha
Bit more preload and those bolt holes will line up...
Seems like Andy added more myths than anything haha
Bit more preload and those bolt holes will line up...
Sorry what myth did you just bust?
don't get me wrong it is a beautiful thing, and who wouldn't be jealous of such a new toy.
But I don't regret cancelling my order, I was hoping and expecting bigger and better things. As the more info becomes available its clear a lot has stayed the same and I find that a bit sad.
People called the 22 V4 a minor update and turned out owners loved it and consider it a significant upgrade (I’ve test ridden the 20 and 22). People also call the 23 V4R a minor update. I expect the same thing will happen w the new V4R. And if anything, it’s not a step back.
Furthermore, how can one make an appreciable assessment of a motorcycle but express disappointment when one hasn’t ridden said motorcycle?
Sorry what myth did you just bust?
Well that was the main caveat I mentioned have not ridden the new V4, so my comparison is of a 2019 V4R + 2023 V4R
No on track images yet, should have by end of day
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Have you gotten out on her yet?
How Much weight savings do you have with the rear subframe?
Where did you get that tankcover? I only found a carbon version but i'm looking for a fiberglass one;
Thanks.
So got the bike all sorted and was able to get a halfday in at NJMP Thunderbolt yesterday. This is a very different bike to the previous 19/20 V4R. Before the I got it on track I had a small issue with a DTC error thrown by a LIN code due to BSD left hand switch, I had to use the OEM LH switch cluster so I could ride which I didnt mind but what is annoying is that the OEM LH switches require a seating post. You cannot just bolt onto another bar. Since I didnt want to deal with drilling a hole and inserting pin into LH spider bar I just threw the OEM LH bar and with cluster back on. Weird to have 1 OEM clip on and 1 Spider clip on, but I just needed to shake the bike down and make sure everything was up working correctly. In regard to the LH BSD switch, it was the orig LH V4R switch, I know the switch has changed in design, not sure if the connection has also changed. I know Mick is not selling the LH V4R or V4 switches rn due to supply chain issues, but I will check with him on compatibility for new bike.
Here is what I noticed about the new bike:
+Geometry is VERY different, when riding and even just throwing a leg over
-I have Race Seats It flat seat on and I am on my tippy toes when standing over - I am 6ft tall, seat feels great, its taller in the front so I am a bit more on top of the bike but not in a bad way but does require flatter back when crawling around on bike changing direction
-Felt quite stiff, was expecting it to feel softer just because of off the floor suspension settings. I did not even set sag which his crazy but I was working on the bike till 1230 the night before to get it ridable and wasn't mad at seeing what it felt like touching nothing. I went a little softer front
and back after the first 2 sessions only to go a little stiffer on the forks after I started picking up speed.
+Gearing is VERY different, I know those of you who have the newer V4 bikes have been experiencing this but I think they took it even further on the R. Multiple corners I was dropping into 1st, shifting is PRECISE - after a few high speed drops from 3rd to 1st not concerned about the 2nd to 1st drop
+Power was noticeably refined, I rode it in High (full/dynamic) as I was just testing the waters. Next weekend I will use FULL and see the difference
+EBC I started in 2 and dropped to 1 (least). Previous bike I was always in 1 mostly because it would reset after every use due to the I2M interface. At 2 the EBC was pushing the front at corner entry
+Bike felt great at corner exit, surprisingly the geometry + shock (w/ 80nm spring) felt solid and planted even with me being about 10 lbs heavier then I should be (195lbs)
Overall very good first outing, I have never done this much to a new bike, esp a brand new bike. Lots to finesse, looking forward to getting more time on this bike. The best comparison I can make between the previous + current V4R is:
-2019/20 was a first step race bike on brand new platform
-23 bike is so refined it is really something, while the release seemed to not be as much as many of us were looking for. After riding it is a really big difference
**Now caveat is that I have not ridden a 22 V4, I maybe would have had the same comments about that. Will be interesting when @RickD996 is able to throw a leg over one
Rode mine this weekend at COTA. Bone stock.
I completely agree with this. Bike it much more refined. Feels ....... fantastic. The bike has a feel (motor, gearing, geometry) much closer to the F20 than the 2020 V4R.
I’m hella happy at my decision to snag one.