2025, totally new Panigale(?)

Steven31371 · May 7, 2024

KarlKani said:
its an ICE bike for sure, the swingarm looks like the V21L swingarm. Which if you look at it is cast, which is not ever how Corse swingers are made. I asked and the V21L was designed by the inline design team - not CORSE. Which does very much makes sense that it is now coming into the consumer product line ie V2R/V4/V4R

Okay yeah I see the engine now. Looking at the bike more closely, it has a kickstand, so it’s a street bike, probably the new V4-V4S…with the V4R to follow in 2026. I like the tank shape, and it might have a wider seat, looks a lot like the RADE Garage tank/seat setup, or more like it anyway. Also the side fairing in front of the knee flares out more, similar to the MotoGp bikes in that spot. The frame right in front of the knee looks slightly different to my eye too.

spooky · May 7, 2024

I don’t like electric vehicles. The engine is the heart of a vehicle and when you lose that it’s simply a utility.

I also don’t think electric is the way forward for a wide range of reasons.

panibadboy · May 7, 2024

spooky said:
I don’t like electric vehicles. The engine is the heart of a vehicle and when you lose that it’s simply a utility.

I also don’t think electric is the way forward for a wide range of reasons.

golden words

EV is a gimmic that is there to fill the vacuum. It doesn't scale at all.

Also don't forget those under-age black children slaves that mine that Cobalt in 3rd w countries

SuperDomestique · May 7, 2024

KTM just threw their hat into the ring

990 RC R

www.ktm.com

Looks impressive

KarlKani · May 7, 2024

Supersport ring

spooky · May 7, 2024

It’s about time they had a halo product, and particularly with how well they are doing in MotoGP.

SuperDomestique · May 7, 2024

KarlKani said:
Supersport ring

990 cc twin is now supersport? Crazy that that’s considered supersport today.

spooky · May 7, 2024

900SS… I’m not sure why it’s crazy?

KarlKani · May 8, 2024

Ducati v2 is 955 super sport
The 990 ptwin makes 130 hp I believe

gt3 · May 8, 2024

SuperDomestique said:
KTM just threw their hat into the ring

990 RC R

www.ktm.com

Looks impressive

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I've been waiting for this bike to show up. There has been a lot of spy shots of it for the past year and I will be getting one.

panibadboy · May 8, 2024

gt3 said:
I've been waiting for this bike to show up. There has been a lot of spy shots of it for the past year and I will be getting one.

Why?

cl955 · May 8, 2024

panibadboy said:
Why?

Agree - why all the fuss? It's heavier than the RC8C or Kramer and with less power. OK, these are track only bikes, but the V2 beats the KTM on power and is probably not a lot heavier.

spooky · May 8, 2024

I reckon it’s good to see a manufacturer coming into this market when others seem to be leaving it, at least in Europe.

DucatiSG · May 9, 2024

so the new bike is supposedly announcing in November but I was told the new MotoGP regulation might changes things a bit. Either delaying or not announcing the bike altogether (not sure why but something to do with the 850cc regulation?)

CSV4 · May 9, 2024

panibadboy said:
golden words

EV is a gimmic that is there to fill the vacuum. It doesn't scale at all.

Also don't forget those under-age black children slaves that mine that Cobalt in 3rd w countries

?

Someone should tell my wife, who swears she will never go back to ICE. Or the multitude of EV owners I see on my short commute everyday in the petrocapital of the world.

JOS · May 10, 2024

Have had now had 4 EV cars, there is nothing better for commuting and driving around the country as I am doing up here in the cold north.
As a motorbike for fun, never as long as I live. Have tried a few, noone that gives any kind of feelings. The thing is missing one dimension, I was surprised myself how sterile it felt on a EV bike.
Now, as being fast on the track, going to track days or competitions, that is another thing, perhaps the EVs can be interesting with less maintenance and flat power band etc. Also the huge issues with environmental and sound regulations are challenging the ICE racing more and more unfortunately.

panibadboy · May 10, 2024

JOS said:
there is nothing better for commuting and driving around the country as I am doing up here in the cold north.

total bollocks, driving EV is like you said, a sterile experience. if you need to commute, take a fuсking bus. driving supposed to give pleasure.

"driving around the country" works in tiny places like Sweden, because its size is equal to EV range.

panibadboy · May 10, 2024

CSV4 said:
?

Someone should tell my wife, who swears she will never go back to ICE. Or the multitude of EV owners I see on my short commute everyday in the petrocapital of the world.

Sell your wife, buy ICE.

But honestly mate, turn up the brain. EVs are 1% of registered cars in the US

Yes, EVs had trouble charging in Chicago cold. No, it wasn't entirely their fault - Autoblog

A lack of charging infrastructure, the tendency of all batteries to suffer in extreme cold, and potentially a lack of owner knowledge may have added up to a perfect winter storm for Chicago EV owners.

www.autoblog.com

The DRC Mining Industry: Child Labor and Formalization of Small-Scale Mining

www.wilsoncenter.org

bp_SFV4 · May 10, 2024

If I Google "main source of electricity in the US" I get:

If I switch the VPN to a Netherlands server using incognito mode I get:

Same search terms using a normal browser window w/o incognito mode:

I don't care what someone else drives, I'm just surprised how different Google search results can be for the exact same search terms.

panibadboy · May 10, 2024

bp_SFV4 said:
I don't care what someone else drives

I just don't get what enjoyment people get driving a rubber doll

2025, totally new Panigale(?)