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its an ICE bike for sure, the swingarm looks like the V21L swingarm. Which if you look at it is cast, which is not ever how Corse swingers are made. I asked and the V21L was designed by the inline design team - not CORSE. Which does very much makes sense that it is now coming into the consumer product line ie V2R/V4/V4R

Okay yeah I see the engine now. Looking at the bike more closely, it has a kickstand, so it’s a street bike, probably the new V4-V4S…with the V4R to follow in 2026. I like the tank shape, and it might have a wider seat, looks a lot like the RADE Garage tank/seat setup, or more like it anyway. Also the side fairing in front of the knee flares out more, similar to the MotoGp bikes in that spot. The frame right in front of the knee looks slightly different to my eye too.
 
I don’t like electric vehicles. The engine is the heart of a vehicle and when you lose that it’s simply a utility.

I also don’t think electric is the way forward for a wide range of reasons.

golden words

EV is a gimmic that is there to fill the vacuum. It doesn't scale at all.

Also don't forget those under-age black children slaves that mine that Cobalt in 3rd w countries
 
KTM just threw their hat into the ring

https://www.ktm.com/en-us/990-rc-r.html
Looks impressive

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so the new bike is supposedly announcing in November but I was told the new MotoGP regulation might changes things a bit. Either delaying or not announcing the bike altogether (not sure why but something to do with the 850cc regulation?)
 
golden words

EV is a gimmic that is there to fill the vacuum. It doesn't scale at all.

Also don't forget those under-age black children slaves that mine that Cobalt in 3rd w countries

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Someone should tell my wife, who swears she will never go back to ICE. Or the multitude of EV owners I see on my short commute everyday in the petrocapital of the world.
 
Have had now had 4 EV cars, there is nothing better for commuting and driving around the country as I am doing up here in the cold north.
As a motorbike for fun, never as long as I live. Have tried a few, noone that gives any kind of feelings. The thing is missing one dimension, I was surprised myself how sterile it felt on a EV bike.
Now, as being fast on the track, going to track days or competitions, that is another thing, perhaps the EVs can be interesting with less maintenance and flat power band etc. Also the huge issues with environmental and sound regulations are challenging the ICE racing more and more unfortunately.
 
there is nothing better for commuting and driving around the country as I am doing up here in the cold north.

total bollocks, driving EV is like you said, a sterile experience. if you need to commute, take a fuсking bus. driving supposed to give pleasure.

"driving around the country" works in tiny places like Sweden, because its size is equal to EV range.
 
If I Google "main source of electricity in the US" I get:

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If I switch the VPN to a Netherlands server using incognito mode I get:

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Same search terms using a normal browser window w/o incognito mode:

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I don't care what someone else drives, I'm just surprised how different Google search results can be for the exact same search terms.
 

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