2025, totally new Panigale(?)

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spooky said:
You are missing the point, which is that you seem to be arguing that the SSSA is chosen for performance considerations and yet in GP they only focus on performance and they do not choose the SSSA.
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I bet they didn't choose because it would have been a change to too many things at once.

V4 engine first, now swing arm.
 
gt3 said:
A side exhaust like this would disgust me.
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The side exhaust disappeared on the 916's. It was a drag thing. Underseat was worth 3 - 4 mph. Don't worry that won't happen. The V4's showed up because you can't get the same valve area or RPM on the twins. Plus the ability to control valve dynamics is way better when the valve itself is lighter. The V4's have some aggressive cam profiles due to the lighter valves which you simply couldn't do on the twins. Not possible to make competitive HP even with a 200 CC advantage for a whole bunch of reasons.
 
SuperDomestique said:
Someone forgot about the Desmosedici RR. It was super cheap and readily available to the masses.
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I already mentioned it… and you’re talking ‘super cheap’ and mass market in a Ducati forum?

I get the feeling you were trying to make a point but I’ve no idea what it could be. If you figure it out then feel free to share. 👍
 
SuperDomestique said:
V4 showed up bc the Superquadro couldn’t pass Euro4 which went into effect in 2017. V2 can’t burn as efficiently as a V4
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Of course because the bore was 112 mm about the same as a 454 chevy. To get 240 HP from a naturally aspirated 1200 CC twin you'd have to increase the bore further and lengthen valve timing a bunch. Bike would be really peaky and hard to ride if you could actually get to that HP. And you'd have to further spin up that massive piston. Tough problem.
 
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Someone on FB was saying that there are very strong rumours about this in Italy. It’s FB of course, so taken with a pinch of salt, but the rumours certainly aren’t going away.

People will have a meltdown… 🤣
 
I like progress, but I don't feel a need to jump to the latest and greatest since I'd have to spend a bunch of money to sort out all the neutering done to get it past regulations.

We're at a point now where you can buy an R7 or an exhaust installed on a Panigale V4. It's getting a bit dumb. I really wish Ducati would make a track only bike for the V2 and V4 platform.
 

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