Akrapovic Full System Dyno Chart

Xbox · Nov 17, 2012

As promised:

Personally, I believe that the base plot is always gonna be a moving reference point, depending on the version of Ducati map, plus settings being used.

As you can see, this is September time stamped, so is already the "old" map.

Having said that, since Akra say their system should be used with the standard "Race" map, I wonder how it will be affected by the continual updates Ducati will make to their own maps

TransNone13 · Nov 17, 2012

That's pretty impressive given the very slight changes. But it IS $4600 MSRP...

rm4two · Nov 17, 2012

TransNone13 said:
That's pretty impressive given the very slight changes. But it IS $4600 MSRP...

I agree. That's just not enough to justify the cost.

Ray916MN · Nov 17, 2012

Basically a grand more than the comparable Termi, most likely a little lighter and showing significant potential for more midrange and a bit more on the top end. We still have yet to clearly see what tuning can do with the Termis and it is possible that the Akra will respond better to tuning. Certainly looks like it works better with the factory race tuning than the Termi.

I'd expect some folks to buy it, just to have something different than what everyone else has.

CW AF 03 · Nov 17, 2012

Anyone heard anything about a Leo Vince system? I've got their full system on my 1098 and love it!

Whoopazz · Nov 17, 2012

25 hp increase at 6000rpm!!! That is huuuge if its true. And why are people still saying its $4600 when ebay price is at $3995 I thought?

Ray916MN · Nov 17, 2012

Whoopazz said:
25 hp increase at 6000rpm!!! That is huuuge if its true. And why are people still saying its $4600 when ebay price is at $3995 I thought?

Those are the torque curves you're looking at. The plot is mis-aligned as the torque curves are above hp curves and the torque scale is way off, since there is no way an 1199 is putting out over 120 ft-lbs of torque. Properly scaled, my guess is about 10-15 ft. lbs. maximum torque improvement.

Since hp = torque x rpm if the lower curves were the torque curves there would be no way the upper curves could dip in the midrange.

1098Rman · Nov 17, 2012

Wow!!! Think about the possible combination of the Akropovic exhaust giving you the Mid range power of a 1198 --then add a custom mapping with a Rapidbike control module to give the top end of a S1000RR!

I'm putting my full term up for sale!

Whoopazz · Nov 17, 2012

Ray916MN said:
Those are the torque curves you're looking at. The plot is mis-aligned as the torque curves are above hp curves and the torque scale is way off, since there is no way an 1199 is putting out over 120 ft-lbs of torque. Properly scaled, my guess is about 10-15 ft. lbs. maximum torque improvement.

Since hp = torque x rpm if the lower curves were the torque curves there would be no way the upper curves could dip in the midrange.

Yeah my bad, even better. I'd rather have a tq increase than hp, cuz the tq you feel by seat of pants...

duckyduc · Nov 17, 2012

I think Akrapovic system are meant to be used with PVC no matter how they put it. Personally i would not feel comfortable using map from Termi for Akra.

duckyduc · Nov 17, 2012

But that is some monster mid range im looking at, will be tons of fun on the street!

snake9 · Nov 17, 2012

Good point duckyduc

ScrapperX · Nov 17, 2012

i suspect the Termi with the new map will look similar or better.

ScrapperX · Nov 17, 2012

Ray916MN said:
Those are the torque curves you're looking at. The plot is mis-aligned as the torque curves are above hp curves and the torque scale is way off, since there is no way an 1199 is putting out over 120 ft-lbs of torque. Properly scaled, my guess is about 10-15 ft. lbs. maximum torque improvement.

Since hp = torque x rpm if the lower curves were the torque curves there would be no way the upper curves could dip in the midrange.

The unit of measurement might be in Nm vs Ft. LBS??

Redline1 · Nov 19, 2012

The latest Ducati 1199 map does add a bit of midrange, but the peak remains essentially the same.

However...,

Dave, the Redline Motorsports in Yorktwon, VA USA Engineer/Owner, is the brains behind the REXXER (USA Distributor) flash tuning in the USA. Redline is leading the industry with Ducati, Moto Guzzi, and MV Agusta flash tuning. Dave is working on new tuning for their 1199 test mule, an all-stock (for now) base 1199. While still a work-in-progress, I have posted their showroom stock vs first tune adjustment before-after dyno plot for your info... When Dave is satisfied that the gains and driveability are maximized, the map will be available through Redline and several other resellers.

TricoloreSF · Nov 19, 2012

That's a nice map. Redline is legit for sure. Any idea on timing? I think I'll give them a all and report back. Thanks for posting.

duckyduc · Nov 19, 2012

Correct me if im wrong, but Redline's map torque curve dont look that much different in the middle, where the new map from Ducati or the Akra offer huge gain, i honestly dont need 4 more hp on top, but would love to have that meaty midrange that twins are know for.

TricoloreSF · Nov 19, 2012

duckyduc said:
Correct me if im wrong, but Redline's map torque curve dont look that much different in the middle, where the new map from Ducati or the Akra offer huge gain, i honestly dont need 4 more hp on top, but would love to have that meaty midrange that twins are know for.

In looking at it again, you're definitely correct. Very noticeable difference between Redline and AR's recent dyno at about the 8k rpm range.

Trauma · Nov 19, 2012

The Akro appears to be a much smoother delivery, where the AR is a bit radical. It peaks, drops, races up, then kinda wavers up at the top, but tops out 10% higher.

Redline1 · Nov 19, 2012

Please remember the Redline 1199 is all stock, we have a Akrapovic full system on order and will install it as soon as it comes in. We will also have maps for Termignoni slip on and full system, we are trying to make ride ability our number one focus.

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