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I think its a jealousy thing..a totally pointless thread on Duc.ms in my view..No idea what that guys issue is?? Trolling I think...
 
I know the OP very well.

He's a good guy. It's just his opinion.

We went on a ride a couple of weeks ago, and there were more Panigales than Gixxers. How often do you see that.
 
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I know the OP very well.

He's a good guy. It's just his opinion.

We went on a ride a couple of weeks ago, and there were more Panigales than Gixxers. How often do you see that.

Thats actually good you know him and say he's a good guy. I am just puzzled why he thinks these thoughts Soul? Do you agree with what I wrote on the MS site as a reply about everyone thinking the 999 was a bad deviation from the single sided swingarm and other changes they have tried over the years? I am definitely all about different opinions and hold nothing against those who voice it, in a tactful and non abusive format ya know? Its just a confusing thread in regard to the topic thats all. Thx for adding your reply and perhaps ask him why he feels this way a bit deeper than what he wrote if you think of it. :cool:
 
[basically among a few of the so-called old timers, ducati lost it's way starting with every bike after the 9x6 series.

These same threads are started EVERY year the new models come out. I actually proposed to admin they could make a sticky of "ducati has lost it's way or doesn't care about the purists and the old timers anymore"

Can't even begin to tell you the whining that went on when the diavel came out.

The really funny thing is, almost universally, the guys doing the whining are the ones who probably will never or have never bought a new ducati.




QUOTE=Gunny Fitz;117852]Thats actually good you know him and say he's a good guy. I am just puzzled why he thinks these thoughts Soul? Do you agree with what I wrote on the MS site as a reply about everyone thinking the 999 was a bad deviation from the single sided swingarm and other changes they have tried over the years? I am definitely all about different opinions and hold nothing against those who voice it, in a tactful and non abusive format ya know? Its just a confusing thread in regard to the topic thats all. Thx for adding your reply and perhaps ask him why he feels this way a bit deeper than what he wrote if you think of it. :cool:[/QUOTE]
 
First of all, I've never been a fan of the term "ducatista", WTH does it mean anyway? Creates a connotation of some elitist club I want no part of. I've had a number of conversations with owners of ducati dealerships and service managers with countless stories of "ducatistas" that barely ride enough to require service every few years, ask dealers to break in their $70k Desmo for them, tires worn completely but only down the center, and collectors of toys purely for bragging rights. According to them, these types of owners are not the minority. Obviously I'm sure it varies by geography, demographics, etc. but it's anecdotal evidence that there's a large segment of owners that talk about demanding superbike performance, dynos, and Superbike shootouts but its just that - talk. I work on my own bike for most everything but the few times I've gone to the dealer for warranty work and updates the service guys go crazy wanting to just see a bike that's actually been at the track. I remember having a convo with the service manager of what other owners are experiencing above 8k rpm with the latest map update so I could make the proper gearing and suspension tweaks and his response was, "no idea, haven't seen a bike that's been over 8k rpm yet".

Unfortunately, there's a lot of posers among us in our brand and its been that way for a long time. If anything, I think the Pani has broadened the accessibilty and usability of Duc superbikes to enable more people than ever to ride closer to the bike's potential than any other Superbike in memory.

For that reason alone, the "Ducatistas" should thank the Pani for helping the image of the brand.
 
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First of all, I've never been a fan of the term "ducatista", WTH does it mean anyway? Creates a connotation of some elitist club I want no part of. I've had a number of conversations with owners of ducati dealerships and service managers with countless stories of "ducatistas" that barely ride enough to require service every few years, ask dealers to break in their $70k Desmo for them, tires worn completely but only down the center, and collectors of toys purely for bragging rights. According to them, these types of owners are not the minority. Obviously I'm sure it varies by geography, demographics, etc. but it's anecdotal evidence that there's a large segment of owners that talk about demanding superbike performance, dynos, and Superbike shootouts but its just that - talk. I work on my own bike for most everything but the few times I've gone to the dealer for warranty work and updates the service guys go crazy wanting to just see a bike that's actually been at the track. I remember having a convo with the service manager of what other owners are experiencing above 8k rpm with the latest map update so I could make the proper gearing and suspension tweaks and his response was, "no idea, haven't seen a bike that's been over 8k rpm yet".

Unfortunately, there's a lot of posers among us in our brand and its been that way for a long time. If anything, I think the Pani has broadened the accessibilty and usability of Duc superbikes to enable more people than ever to ride closer to the bike's potential than any other Superbike in memory.

For that reason alone, the "Ducatistas" should thank the Pani for helping the image of the brand.

I've always been the first for services and warranty claims in several dealerships. Also on my 5th set of tires in a year. lol
 
I've always been the first for services and warranty claims in several dealerships. Also on my 5th set of tires in a year. lol

I agree with earlier posts... I think 'ducatisti' is synonymous with guys who own garage princesses...If so then I am glad not to be described thus... Only 3rd of tyres here though...:p
 
Thats actually good you know him and say he's a good guy. I am just puzzled why he thinks these thoughts Soul? Do you agree with what I wrote on the MS site as a reply about everyone thinking the 999 was a bad deviation from the single sided swingarm and other changes they have tried over the years? I am definitely all about different opinions and hold nothing against those who voice it, in a tactful and non abusive format ya know? Its just a confusing thread in regard to the topic thats all. Thx for adding your reply and perhaps ask him why he feels this way a bit deeper than what he wrote if you think of it. :cool:

Brother I totally agree with your statement.

Like I said I know the OP well. It doesn't mean I agree with his opinion.:)

I love my Pani so much I traded one in for another. Yeah, I love them that much!
 
no Charlie, I don't think it should be whined about. If building diavel or any other non traditional bike allows ducati to produce the pani, multistrada, I'm all for it. It might not be for you and me, but ducati has brought a lot of non traditional riders into ducati with the diavel and other bikes. (mts...)

Everything I've heard about the Diavel is that it does what it does very well (ie outperforms cruisers and handles) probably not a bike I'd own, tho I just might in a year or two.

HOLD ON!!

Are you suggesting that the Diavel *shouldn't* be whined about??????
 
no Charlie, I don't think it should be whined about. If building diavel or any other non traditional bike allows ducati to produce the pani, multistrada, I'm all for it. It might not be for you and me, but ducati has brought a lot of non traditional riders into ducati with the diavel and other bikes. (mts...)

Everything I've heard about the Diavel is that it does what it does very well (ie outperforms cruisers and handles) probably not a bike I'd own, tho I just might in a year or two.

Chris.... Don't do it ..Lol.. I have been there...
 
but to quote a sage individual "what you eat don't make me fat", I absolutely don'y care what another person who buys a pani or any other bike for that matter does with it. If anything these garage queens and starbuck cruisers will give someone the opportunity to buy a few years from now at huge cost with no miles.




First of all, I've never been a fan of the term "ducatista", WTH does it mean anyway? Creates a connotation of some elitist club I want no part of. I've had a number of conversations with owners of ducati dealerships and service managers with countless stories of "ducatistas" that barely ride enough to require service every few years, ask dealers to break in their $70k Desmo for them, tires worn completely but only down the center, and collectors of toys purely for bragging rights. According to them, these types of owners are not the minority. Obviously I'm sure it varies by geography, demographics, etc. but it's anecdotal evidence that there's a large segment of owners that talk about demanding superbike performance, dynos, and Superbike shootouts but its just that - talk. I work on my own bike for most everything but the few times I've gone to the dealer for warranty work and updates the service guys go crazy wanting to just see a bike that's actually been at the track. I remember having a convo with the service manager of what other owners are experiencing above 8k rpm with the latest map update so I could make the proper gearing and suspension tweaks and his response was, "no idea, haven't seen a bike that's been over 8k rpm yet".

Unfortunately, there's a lot of posers among us in our brand and its been that way for a long time. If anything, I think the Pani has broadened the accessibilty and usability of Duc superbikes to enable more people than ever to ride closer to the bike's potential than any other Superbike in memory.

For that reason alone, the "Ducatistas" should thank the Pani for helping the image of the brand.
 
Well Steve, you know I felt the same way about the mts when I bought, but after an extended demo, I jumped into a 13 mts gt and since May I've clocke almost 7k miles on it. It ranks right next to my streetfighter as my fav bike of all time. Something about the diavel that's calling me!

Chris.... Don't do it ..Lol.. I have been there...
 
but to quote a sage individual "what you eat don't make me fat", I absolutely don'y care what another person who buys a pani or any other bike for that matter does with it. If anything these garage queens and starbuck cruisers will give someone the opportunity to buy a few years from now at huge cost with no miles.

That sounds brutal(e).
 
I find that people that have to use the word "real_____" have some type of insecurity issue and need to validate their self worth. I've had every Ducati superbike since the 748 and the Panigale's as real as it gets. IMO, better in some respects.
 
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