Anyone want to buy a 2020 Panigale WSBK?

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Paul G said:
Also the EV transition is total ........, its just not physically possible.
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Sounds a bit defeatist to me.

No such thing as a problem, only an opportunity to provide a solution!

Whilst we may need more energy for cars, and bigger electrical demand at home, electrical demand is also decreasing. LED street lights, low energy TVs, fridges and domestic lighting, all leave room, for electric cars charging over night. Which, is fine for wind power, nuclear power, and coal/gas power.

Not to mention, hydrogen-electric cars are the real future.
 
Rick, the EV thing is always going to be there but there are simply not enough minerals to make the transition. Seriously the numbers are mind boggling in terms of whats required in raw materials. Also the amount of Co2 saved is not that much over the life of a vehicle.

 
Synthetic fuels look very promising as well, with existing vehicles being able to use them and infrastructure already in place, etc. I can see the argument for zero-emission in cities to help with air quality but it’s not zero-emission when at least 60% of the electricity is produced by gas, etc.
 
Steven31371 said:
There’s a few subtle differences, for example the Sparks seems to be using a narrowing at the can to create a little bit of back pressure in the system, that’s needed to not lose some lower rpm power, and they seemed to have balanced that well. Meaning just enough back pressure to keep the midrange solid while opening up the top a bit. Sparks also used better materials, specifically the Inconel headers.

The Akra WSBK may have a slight restriction in there somewhere too for the same reasons but they did it elsewhere in the system if they did. Maybe in the headers?

The Sparks was designed by a bunch of Italian engineering graduate students as a school project, who had access to some of the most advanced modeling software.

Having said all that, I suspects there’s very little difference between the two. Physics are the same for everybody, which is why all new cars are starting to look alike, airflow works the same regardless of manufacturer, so if everybody is optimizing it a lot of stuff starts to look the same.
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Well that system has been used in WSBK for 1 season and only because they stepped up as a sponsor (Go Eleven). When Chaz was on the bike it was Akra because it was a factory bike. They must have handed those student the Akra exhaust and said copy this, change like 2 small things
 
KarlKani said:
Well that system has been used in WSBK for 1 season and only because they stepped up as a sponsor (Go Eleven). When Chaz was on the bike it was Akra because it was a factory bike. They must have handed those student the Akra exhaust and said copy this, change like 2 small things
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Maybe, I dunno, doesn’t really affect me though, I got a good exhaust, I don’t really care what badge is on it, and it’s not like they copied it in some Chinese factory and used cheap materials and ...... welds to make it, they upgraded the materials and the welds look great.

And I didn’t have to jump through hoops or know somebody who knows somebody to get it.
 
Paul G said:
Rick, the EV thing is always going to be there but there are simply not enough minerals to make the transition. Seriously the numbers are mind boggling in terms of whats required in raw materials. Also the amount of Co2 saved is not that much over the life of a vehicle.

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Where did the money cone from for this content....🤔
 
spooky said:
Synthetic fuels look very promising as well, with existing vehicles being able to use them and infrastructure already in place, etc. I can see the argument for zero-emission in cities to help with air quality but it’s not zero-emission when at least 60% of the electricity is produced by gas, etc.
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or the upfront emissions making those EV's
 
Steven31371 said:
Maybe, I dunno, doesn’t really affect me though, I got a good exhaust, I don’t really care what badge is on it, and it’s not like they copied it in some Chinese factory and used cheap materials and ...... welds to make it, they upgraded the materials and the welds look great.

And I didn’t have to jump through hoops or know somebody who knows somebody to get it.
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They are a good name anyway and it looks pretty awesome. Do you have a video of the sound from it somewhere? What’s the db level?
 
SuperDomestique said:
Ducati must really want to get rid of its F20s and 21s. Blowing them out on fire sale! Seems like you have to shell out around £200k for one of these jobs (or half of what Steven spent on his bike… so far).

Would love to know what’s going on in the rear subframe. Is there is mass damper back there like the GP bike?
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Yeah. Ducati is currently one of the only manufacturers that allows race teams to privately sell their factory bikes. I ain’t complaining.

Nothing is going on in there in my bike. The mass damper was removed. Apparently that’s a piece of tech held very close to the chest, requires it’s on pit technician, can easily be really ...... up, and can make the bike quite unstable if not properly set up by a technician.
 
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