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Stw said:
Waf... as always... you handle this with style and grace... Great job man.. you have my utmost admiration for your never ending patience and willingness to go as far as you have...
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A heart-felt +1
 
Rich22 said:
Austinracing stand by its published results for this system.


Austinracing will gladly fit our system to any UK owners bike that wishes to buy 1. If the system does not perform as stated by us then we will gladly give you the system for free!!! This offer also applies to eu and rest of world owners if visiting the UK.


Austinracing are no longer prepared to comment or reply to any further posts on this thread whilst the legal implementations of some posts are scrutinised.
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Not only do you need a 150mph fan, you must reside in the UK to get results. A country specific exhaust, go figure. And if you complain about it, they'll sue you.
 
WAfatboy said:
Yep I bought it direct.

My issues with actual performance vs claimed performance outlined many times but most recently in post #597, remain unresolved.
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I hope you do get what you want.

As a potential buyer myself, I want to see you get what you want and I'm sure you will.

Like you said, Chill. A sharp intake from all sides would be beneficial.

For me, Year Ones bike looks the dogs danglies and from the sound clips I've heard, the whole thing sounds wicked.!

When you get her on track, get some ride bye clips if you can and share.

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I think this is the most awesomest thread ever.

 
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Beanflicker said:
I hope you do get what you want.

As a potential buyer myself, I want to see you get what you want and I'm sure you will.

Like you said, Chill. A sharp intake from all sides would be beneficial.

For me, Year Ones bike looks the dogs danglies and from the sound clips I've heard, the whole thing sounds wicked.!

When you get her on track, get some ride bye clips if you can and share.

.
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Dogs danglies? So that's good?
 
Trauma said:
Great, kinda a reverse-class-action-suit?
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I guess we are inadvertently aiding AR in legal matters then...

Retraction Watch | Tracking retractions as a window into the scientific process

" And considered from a more cynical point of view, figures like Hwang and Hauser are not outliers so much as one end on a continuum of dishonest behaviors that extend from the cherry-picking of data to fit a chosen hypothesis — which many researchers admit is commonplace — to outright fabrication. "
from article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/m...ious-academic-fraud.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0&hp

"“It was a quest for aesthetics, for beauty — instead of the truth,[.]”"
 
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VAST said:
I guess we are inadvertently aiding AR in legal matters then...

Retraction Watch | Tracking retractions as a window into the scientific process

" And considered from a more cynical point of view, figures like Hwang and Hauser are not outliers so much as one end on a continuum of dishonest behaviors that extend from the cherry-picking of data to fit a chosen hypothesis "” which many researchers admit is commonplace "” to outright fabrication. "
from article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/m...ious-academic-fraud.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0&hp

""It was a quest for aesthetics, for beauty "” instead of the truth,[.]""
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You guys crack me up... Vast I think you're now on the list too...
 
Stw said:
You guys crack me up... Vast I think you're now on the list too...
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I actually blame you stw: you posted that Few Good Man scene which has Jack in a COURTROOM and this unconsciously provoked Rich to use legal threats. I think you subliminally stirred the pot here!
 
VAST said:
I actually blame you stw: you posted that Few Good Man scene which has Jack in a COURTROOM and this unconsciously provoked Rich to use legal threats. I think you subliminally stirred the pot here!
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Yep... I am the bad guy here.. we know that...:D
 
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Wow - ignored this thread for awhile and looks like some serious fireworks going on. .

Disclaimer - I have no interest in the AR exhaust so this is purely my opinion.

There may be some truth to the ram air impacting performance. Last year while I was testing water wetter vs eth glycol for engine temperature performance I came across an effect that I noticed - that clean ram air impacts engine temperature significantly (well anywhere from 10-15 degrees). Try this sometime - go and get the engine nice and warm and go on the highway. Drive behind someone on the highway for awhile and note the engine temp. Drive in a clear lane at the same gear and speed and note the speed. It will surprise you. I don't have the exact numbers from last year, but off the top of my head for eth glycol (regular coolant) - in 3rd gear around 70mph, if you were running behind a car and there wasn't good ram air flow, you would be around 205F. If you had a clear lane with good ram air at that speed/gear the temp would drop to around 190-195. A good 10 degree difference. Water wetter would drop it another 7-8 degrees as well. ..

Obviously this depends upon ambient air, etc, etc. But there was a noticeable difference when you had nice clean air vs say turbulent/non ram air. I didn't expect 10 degrees but sometimes it seemed greater than that . So - I'm not saying as I have no idea how that 10+ degree of engine temp will impact HP/torque in any given rpm range, but there is a difference in temp based on ram air. Go ahead and ride and try it out.
 
Anthem... I think you are just trying to throw us off topic... :D
 
anthem said:
There may be some truth to the ram air impacting performance. Last year while I was testing water wetter vs eth glycol for engine temperature performance I came across an effect that I noticed - that clean ram air impacts engine temperature significantly (well anywhere from 10-15 degrees). Try this sometime - go and get the engine nice and warm and go on the highway. Drive behind someone on the highway for awhile and note the engine temp. Drive in a clear lane at the same gear and speed and note the speed. It will surprise you. I don't have the exact numbers from last year, but off the top of my head for eth glycol (regular coolant) - in 3rd gear around 70mph, if you were running behind a car and there wasn't good ram air flow, you would be around 205F. If you had a clear lane with good ram air at that speed/gear the temp would drop to around 190-195. A good 10 degree difference. Water wetter would drop it another 7-8 degrees as well. ..

Obviously this depends upon ambient air, etc, etc. But there was a noticeable difference when you had nice clean air vs say turbulent/non ram air. I didn't expect 10 degrees but sometimes it seemed greater than that . So - I'm not saying as I have no idea how that 10+ degree of engine temp will impact HP/torque in any given rpm range, but there is a difference in temp based on ram air. Go ahead and ride and try it out.
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I would suspect disrupted aero effects, (i.e. turbulence) as the primary cause of the loss of cooling efficiency rather than intake ram air effects. Dead low pressure zones contribute to all kinds of performance issues, from overheating to lack of downforce, or excessive lift, etc.

Laminar intake air flow does indeed affect performance positively.
High performance intake manifold design normally incorporates bell-shaped mouths on the runners which are visible on individual throttle body (itb) set ups to improve flow and reduce "turbulence". The nice thing is you can do searches on patents and read all the "secret" information about these designs. Shh, don't tell anyone though. ;)

I personally run a sheet metal intake manifold that uses them and a velocity stack on my intake pipe (car) which gives good gains with high cfm. Gains are more noticeable on turbo applications due to the huge potential to raise VE. Pressurizing the intake air, say with fans, or a centrifugal supercharger, turbo, etc, will improve performance with the right tuning.

Clean air optimizes the potential, consistency, and efficiency of many parts of the bike, including the suspension system. Controlling the air flow over and through the bike (in this case) is extremely important to maintain the efficiency of the cooling system. Drag is always the enemy, but some design trade-offs are necessary in order to cool the bike properly.

Drafting is great for saving fuel though. Just watch out for potholes and delaminating tires when drafting rigs. :)
 
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WTF - I go away for 8 full hours and no new lawsuits? This thread is getting worse:D
 

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