Good Morning.
The only thing we have shown definitively so far is that a Pani with 400km and a full Termi system, and a Pani with 13,000km and a full AR system both produce marginally less power and torque, untuned, than the latter bike with Termi slips and the latest OEM map.
What I have learnt is that unless you can match the exact bike & dyno setup of the manufacturer then you will be unable to achieve the advertised power and torque numbers.
The only problem I have with this is that these factors are not advertised as a disclaimer.
The basic claim that has caused so much contention here was that AR claimed their system was better and developing power than the Termi full system. Something that I hope to be able to prove or disprove as the other bike gets run in but without the tune this is not the case, they are almost identical at peak figures. I know this doesn't mean it can't outperform Termis just that we haven't replicated that performance.
The AR system is significantly lighter, and is louder. (Whether it sounds better is a subjective call, I think it does at full chat but not necessarily at idle)
The heat generated with no tune seemed no different to the stock headers. Maybe that will change with proper fuelling.
The key question for me is whether, allowing for our available dyno conditions, is whether we are able to beat or equal the full Termis because otherwise I've potentially voided my warranty for limited physical and aesthetic benefit (again I agree that weight & sound might be viewed as reason alone to do this for some but these were secondary reasons for me).
The AR system appears to be like any other full race system in that is a starting point for a power bike, requiring considerable work and specific mapping setup to extract the claimed figures. I was hoping (maybe naively) for a better result out of the box because I know how hard it is to magic up HP without engine work. I am now hoping that a good tune will help resolve.
I will endeavour to answer that in time and until then I'll suspend any further judgement. My gut feel is that I will actually really enjoy the pipes if I can get them fuelling beautifully, and that they will be at least as good power wise as what I would have got out of the Termi system, unique sound and more exclusive (can you hear me starting to post rationalise? Something Ducati owners are good at
I might try the RB module just for the sake of testing, after all what's another 640GBP between friends!
Looking forward,to giving you some more insight shortly.
