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Steven31371 · Feb 3, 2023

RickD996 said:
With the best will in the world, I'm pretty sure MM knows what he's doing, how to ride a bike and those tyres, and is probably the best person ever, at saving any slide

Agreed, and pretty easy to critique him while he’s the one riding with 125 pounds less mass, stickier tires that I’ll ever run on, a bike that’s 40% more powerful, and going twice as fast around that corner than I’ll probably ever go

Jolly Roger V4 · Feb 4, 2023

Chuckwalla has more corners, less top speed, elevation and less time to rest. Very busy track and not easy to learn but fun and flowing once you do!!

Jolly Roger V4 · Feb 4, 2023

Be there tomorrow!!

Jolly Roger V4 · Feb 4, 2023

youpaiyou said:
Turn 12…. It’s a mo fo.

Nice times man. Yeah turn 12 will get ya! I was happy breaking the 2:00's

Steven31371 · Feb 4, 2023

Jolly Roger V4 said:
Chuckwalla has more corners, less top speed, elevation and less time to rest. Very busy track and not easy to learn but fun and flowing once you do!!

Looks like you would do the entire course in 2nd and 3rd? Do you ever touch 4th gear there?

I’m running one rear tooth longer of a final drive than stock for running at Fontana, but might go one tooth shorter than stock since the majority of my track days will be at Chuck this year.

youpaiyou · Feb 4, 2023

2nd through 4th gear for me, but I’m on a smaller bike than you.

They have announced (again) that the second racetrack at Buttonwillow will be ready later this year. That should be fun.

JohnSmith · Feb 4, 2023

Jolly Roger V4 said:
Chuckwalla has more corners, less top speed, elevation and less time to rest. Very busy track and not easy to learn but fun and flowing once you do!!

Also, I am not used to riding I the desert so for me its really weird for there to be nothing around the track to use as dum dum markers, but also there is a very different take on depth perception when the track and the desert don't look that different.

Its fun but way different then what I was used to start stop more technical tracks. Entirely different way to ride also its not really a big bike track

BP PanigaleV4S · Feb 4, 2023

I thought the same every time I saw a video from one of the desert tracks, Chuck being top. Having the contrast between green grass and black asphalt seems beneficial.

Steven31371 · Feb 4, 2023

KarlKani said:
Also, I am not used to riding I the desert so for me its really weird for there to be nothing around the track to use as dum dum markers, but also there is a very different take on depth perception when the track and the desert don't look that different.

Its fun but way different then what I was used to start stop more technical tracks. Entirely different way to ride also its not really a big bike track

The cones are your friends out here, most trackday organizers put braking and turn in cones. And if you ride the track enough you start recognize little anomalies in the pavement as markers and sight windows as your markers, like things in the distance. For example at Big Willow turn 8 is a big no throttle lift sweeper in a car, that goes right into a decreasing radius turn 9, way off in the distance is a White House that looks like a little white spec, when that hit mid-windshield you lift of the throttle and rotate the car into the decreasing radius of turn 9.
You can’t over rely on the cones though, at ACS somebody had gone off the session before me and hit the cones, the corner worker didn’t put the turn in cone back in the same place abd I went off track over relying on it.

I suspect it’s definitely harder than back east though.

JohnSmith · Feb 4, 2023

they just repaved also

Paul G · Feb 4, 2023

RickD996 said:
With the best will in the world, I'm pretty sure MM knows what he's doing, how to ride a bike and those tyres, and is probably the best person ever, at saving any slide

reading these threads that point out the fine points of riding technique that have eluded MM thus far, I don't feel so bad still being barely average after 50 years in the saddle

SuperDomestique · Feb 4, 2023

Paul G said:
reading these threads that point out the fine points of riding technique that have eluded MM thus far, I don't feel so bad still being barely average after 50 years in the saddle

Paul, you’re probably only 4 sec slower around Valencia than MM

Paul G · Feb 4, 2023

Lol in my dreams!

craig bush · Feb 4, 2023

SuperDomestique said:
Paul, you’re probably only 4 sec slower around Valencia than MM

Yep - he’s “pretty much” as good as Marquez.

SuperDomestique · Feb 4, 2023

craig bush said:
Yep - he’s “pretty much” as good as Marquez.

I’m just waiting for Craig or bp to tell me 2+2 doesn’t equal 4. And then Steven will tell us that he does multivariable calculus when he has trouble doing basic arithmetic

Kev242 · Feb 4, 2023

At Chuck this weekend, put up a new PB (2:09….nothing to write home about but steady improvement for me) and the magic was to drop the bike into Low power mode, I actually had higher top speeds on the short straights due to better roll speed into corners and driving out of them stronger with earlier throttle.

This place has changed the way I brake as well, “lighter and longer” bumped that roll speed up and got rid of any unsettled moments prior to corner entry.

@Jolly Roger V4 Stop by Garage 8 or tell me what your tow vehicle is and I’ll find you if you are around tomorrow, not lattes but we do have coffee!

Paul G · Feb 4, 2023

SuperDomestique said:
2+2 doesn’t equal 4.

-20 = -20

16-36 = 25-45 adding (+81/4) on both sides

16–36+( 81/4) = 25-45+(81/4)
this is in the form of (a-b)^2 = (a^2 - 2.a.b + b^2)

{4 - (9/2) } ^2 = {5 - (9/2) } ^2
Taking root on both sides, we get:

{4 - (9/2) } = {5 - (9/2) }
Adding +9/2 on both sides,
we get:

4 = 5

OR

2+2 = 5

SuperDomestique · Feb 4, 2023

Paul G said:
-20 = -20

16-36 = 25-45 adding (+81/4) on both sides

16–36+( 81/4) = 25-45+(81/4)
this is in the form of (a-b)^2 = (a^2 - 2.a.b + b^2)

{4 - (9/2) } ^2 = {5 - (9/2) } ^2
Taking root on both sides, we get:

{4 - (9/2) } = {5 - (9/2) }
Adding +9/2 on both sides,
we get:

4 = 5

OR

2+2 = 5

Paul has joined the Inner Party

craig bush · Feb 4, 2023

SuperDomestique said:
I’m just waiting for Craig or bp to tell me 2+2 doesn’t equal 4.

That’s your inclination, not ours.

Paul G · Feb 4, 2023

4 wheels good, 2 wheels better

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