Censor on this Forum?

[zvez]

danger will robinson, creepie stalk guy vibe is back, and he knows the terminology, not that there's anything wrong with that!

i guess i could turn u out into my bottom, but you'd have to stop fibbing....could u poss do that ¿ ¿

 

[SOULRIDER]

danger will robinson, creepie stalk guy vibe is back, and he knows the terminology, not that there's anything wrong with that!

You both need to kiss and make up. No pics please

 

[bikenamenumber]

Can a mod change the title of this thread?

Censure is a word for sure but I don't think it means what OP thinks it means.

That word should be replaced with "Censorship"

I've tried not to be a grammar Nazi but this one is killing me.

Thanks!

 

[Duck41]

Generally, if a thread starter feels better with the thread removed, it will be done, despite the artwork of all other contributors.
Name of the game.

Essentially the only reason to remove it, besides the spam FYI.

This would be somewhat reasonable for an undeveloped thread, but to remove a thread that discusses multiple topics and features potentially valuable information sets a questionable precedent that is counterintuitive to the general purpose and intent of a forum.

 

[NOLA]

i dont care to, actually.... but you've PM'ed me way back to chastise me, and i did not yield; hence.....

"I don't care to actually" = "You called my bluff"

VAST, I hear Vagasil is on sale.


NOLA

 

[Phl]

This would be somewhat reasonable for an undeveloped thread, but to remove a thread that discusses multiple topics and features potentially valuable information sets a questionable precedent that is counterintuitive to the general purpose and intent of a forum.

That's what happens if people refuse to stay on topic.

Just call DNA for the thread content . Just because they don't post here, doesn't mean they don't read here.

General rule for dealers and companies is to stay off forums / discussions .

You can't win on the internet, as soon as you realize that (as a business) you stay off that shark tank...

Saving the knowledge of this thread could be done in (long) work by (unpaid) mods or just the guys who posted or read and remember ...
I guess Charlie already poster pt. 2

Thx

Phl

 

[youngR]

You guys are crazy.

 

[Claymore]

You guys are crazy.

What gave us away?

 

[Xbox]

You guys are crazy.

Crazy good?

Crazy bad?

.... or just crazy

 

[youngR]

Crazy good?

Crazy bad?

.... or just crazy

C. All the Above.

 

[Buliwyf]

I'm glad that thread is gone.

Whole lot of weak sauce in it.

 

[stanmart]

I wish Art the best in his legal pursuit.

I'm also glad Art requested the thread to be removed after someone suggested it may be in his best interest.

I agree there was the potential to have value in the thread. However until all the truth and facts were laid out I didn't see the value.

Ducati nor Melillimoto would ever respond. I'm fairly certain they would have a different take on the thread, and many here would regret what they said.

Apologizes to anyone I offended. I've known the family at Melillimoto for years. I know that Sebastian, Carrol, and the rest of the staff go above and beyond. Ask anyone that has dealt with them. Let's also not forget DNA refers customers to Melillimoto because of their work.

I was laid up for a few months, and Seb came all the way out to my house to grab my bike on a few occasions for recall work. My house was 3 hours away one way.

There is no reason for me to defend Melillimoto. I live 800 miles away now. Sebastian is not my local dealer. He will forever have my loyalty knowing how he treated me when I was local and now when I need something even 4 states away. Everyone in his shop is a class act. People assuming things without knowing the facts is wrong.

I'm sure Melillimoto would love to repair the bike. Art would be happy, all this never happens, and Melillimoto gets paid.

BTW, someone mentioned that Melillimoto probably didn't know how to break down the engine.

Sebastian has had several seminars at shop on specifically the Panigale engine. They were free, and we got to see the engine broken down, and put back together in an afternoon. DNA was on-site to answer questions as well.

Melillimoto was caught in the middle here, and it was unjust. Know the facts before you start bashing, and calling out people.

Art I wish you well.

Sebastian is a really good guy. Melillimoto is a fine place to buy a bike from.

People always assume the dealer is evil but thats far from the case.

He can only do what he can do. Ducati investigates when an engine fails. The first thing they do is look for signs of abuse.

Ducati instructs sebastians crew what to do. Step by step. Ducati is paying so they make the call.

Sucks arts bike didn't get covered. But i do not know all facts involved. I will admit the drag run thing scared me. I put drag runs and track days together. I don't see a huge deal there but its not my call.

Ducati and sebastian assured me a track day would not void a warranty. Do i think regular track days can be hard on a bike? Sure. But as long as its covered i have no problems.

 

[Duck41]

That's what happens if people refuse to stay on topic.

Just call DNA for the thread content . Just because they don't post here, doesn't mean they don't read here.

General rule for dealers and companies is to stay off forums / discussions .

You can't win on the internet, as soon as you realize that (as a business) you stay off that shark tank...

Saving the knowledge of this thread could be done in (long) work by (unpaid) mods or just the guys who posted or read and remember ...
I guess Charlie already poster pt. 2

Thx

Phl

It really shouldn’t be the moderators’ concern to ensure each thread strictly remains on topic. The threat of being forced to remain on topic or risk having a thread deleted would thwart the sort of serendipitous information that good discussions often produce. Additionally, asking forum members to remember and be responsible for reproducing a deleted thread’s content is unnecessarily placing an undue burden on the members while potentially robbing future members of valuable information should that content never be accurately reproduced.

You and the other moderators on this forum have done a terrific job overall, but this is a decision I vehemently oppose. Locking a thread (i.e., preventing the possibility of additional posts to be added) that has irreparably strayed off topic is acceptable in some cases, but actually removing content without warning while placing the burden of reproduction of the deleted thread’s content on the members is setting a dangerous precedent that most members here, and possibly the administrator, did not agree to when making the decision to implement moderators. If I correctly recall, the primary purpose of implementing moderators was to prevent the influx of spam that had begun to occur, and to handle the occasional member whose sole intent is to disrupt productive discussion – neither of which was the case in this instance. If the original poster of the thread in question desired having his posts deleted then let it be so, but moderators should not delete all contributions to a thread without warning at the sole request of one member who happens to believe the information in that thread is unfavorable to him.

Also, Zvez mentioned a “thread boneyard”. Is this a section of the forum which regular members have access to, or is this an area which only privileged members may access? How would the average member go about accessing or reviewing contributions they made to a thread that has been banished to a thread boneyard?

 

[Xbox]

It really shouldn't be the moderators' concern to ensure each thread strictly remains on topic. The threat of being forced to remain on topic or risk having a thread deleted would thwart the sort of serendipitous information that good discussions often produce. Additionally, asking forum members to remember and be responsible for reproducing a deleted thread's content is unnecessarily placing an undue burden on the members while potentially robbing future members of valuable information should that content never be accurately reproduced.

You and the other moderators on this forum have done a terrific job overall, but this is a decision I vehemently oppose. Locking a thread (i.e., preventing the possibility of additional posts to be added) that has irreparably strayed off topic is acceptable in some cases, but actually removing content without warning while placing the burden of reproduction of the deleted thread's content on the members is setting a dangerous precedent that most members here, and possibly the administrator, did not agree to when making the decision to implement moderators. If I correctly recall, the primary purpose of implementing moderators was to prevent the influx of spam that had begun to occur, and to handle the occasional member whose sole intent is to disrupt productive discussion - neither of which was the case in this instance. If the original poster of the thread in question desired having his posts deleted then let it be so, but moderators should not delete all contributions to a thread without warning at the sole request of one member who happens to believe the information in that thread is unfavorable to him.

Also, Zvez mentioned a "thread boneyard". Is this a section of the forum which regular members have access to, or is this an area which only privileged members may access? How would the average member go about accessing or reviewing contributions they made to a thread that has been banished to a thread boneyard?

No privileged members here...... other than those that get to ride Ducati's

 

[azimmerlyjr]

I wish Art the best in his legal pursuit.

I'm also glad Art requested the thread to be removed after someone suggested it may be in his best interest.

I agree there was the potential to have value in the thread. However until all the truth and facts were laid out I didn't see the value.

Ducati nor Melillimoto would ever respond. I'm fairly certain they would have a different take on the thread, and many here would regret what they said.

Apologizes to anyone I offended. I've known the family at Melillimoto for years. I know that Sebastian, Carrol, and the rest of the staff go above and beyond. Ask anyone that has dealt with them. Let's also not forget DNA refers customers to Melillimoto because of their work.

I was laid up for a few months, and Seb came all the way out to my house to grab my bike on a few occasions for recall work. My house was 3 hours away one way.

There is no reason for me to defend Melillimoto. I live 800 miles away now. Sebastian is not my local dealer. He will forever have my loyalty knowing how he treated me when I was local and now when I need something even 4 states away. Everyone in his shop is a class act. People assuming things without knowing the facts is wrong.

I'm sure Melillimoto would love to repair the bike. Art would be happy, all this never happens, and Melillimoto gets paid.

BTW, someone mentioned that Melillimoto probably didn't know how to break down the engine.

Sebastian has had several seminars at shop on specifically the Panigale engine. They were free, and we got to see the engine broken down, and put back together in an afternoon. DNA was on-site to answer questions as well.

Melillimoto was caught in the middle here, and it was unjust. Know the facts before you start bashing, and calling out people.

Art I wish you well.

thank you man I appreciate it. I trust everything he says about this bike that's for sure. im just praying that its not a total lose for the motor, and perhaps I can have just a few things replaced and just be out 2-3Gs. perhaps wishful thinking but oh well..lol

 

[azimmerlyjr]

I'm glad that thread is gone.

Whole lot of weak sauce in it.

weak sauce? whats that taste like? never had any...lmao

 

[Phl]

Off topic is no issue to any of us, I meant it in a context that it just happens and that it's normal .


Derailed threads are the norm, right ?

If a thread starter request a thread to be closed and removed from the public, we will do that. Simple as that. No matter what has been contributed.

If the same information is brought up by someone else in a new thread, fine.

It was in art's best interest to get it off, why wouldn't we do it?
Valuable information contained or not. We don't have the resources to do cherry picking in locked/removed threads, so be it.

And it's an exception to the rule, 99% stays on here, except the spam and the idiots.

 

[Duck41]

No privileged members here...... other than those that get to ride Ducati's

If it's an immunity shared only by a smaller group of the population, then it is a privilege. It bothers me that I no longer have access to my previous posts while moderators may freely move threads to restricted areas without incurring the same inconveniences. It also bothers me that because someone else starts a thread, they have the power to dictate whether my previous posts to that thread are deleted and inaccessible to me. On a public online forum, a regular member should not be able to act as a moderator and possess the capability to delete other members' posts.

 

[Buliwyf]

Mr. Serious American poster. LOlz.

Not as hilarious as the "Towing a broken 1199 around the world." thread, but close.

 

[esmirna8261980]

this is the same stuff that happen in Ducati superbike forum the moderator start acting like god closing thread and kicking member out just because they dint agree with their opinion. now look how is ducati superbike forum is (DEAD)