Charcoal emissions canister

bwaide · Jun 26, 2012

Found this on the web...better than going to the hardware store 7 times when you find out there's something else you need.

https://tpoparts.com/cat093/index.php?route=product/product&path=1_47&product_id=48

SoonerNation · Jun 27, 2012

Found mine in the box with my stock manifold. The dealer removed the canister when they installed the race manifold today.

mavic · Jun 27, 2012

SoonerNation said:
Found mine in the box with my stock manifold. The dealer removed the canister when they installed the race manifold today.

Was this at your request or did they preemptively remove it?

tstephenson · Jun 28, 2012

mavic said:
Was this at your request or did they preemptively remove it?

I like a dealer who knows their customer

I wish mine had the foresite so I didn't have to do mine myself. Easy just but easier when someone else does it

SoonerNation · Jun 28, 2012

tstephenson said:
I like a dealer who knows their customer I wish mine had the foresite so I didn't have to do mine myself. Easy just but easier when someone else does it

They did it for me without asking. One less thing for me to remove.

efna · Jun 28, 2012

Honestly the hardest thing to remove from the bike so far has been my a$$ from the seat.

tstephenson · Jun 28, 2012

efna said:
Honestly the hardest thing to remove from the bike so far has been my a$$ from the seat.

+1

efna · Jul 20, 2012

So I removed my charcoal canister tonight. Pretty straight forward. Was looking around and noticed something odd that you all might want to check into.

There are to breather/vent lines that run from the gas tank. One goes to the charcaol cannister. The other parrallels this line to the charcoal cannister then runs up in front of the lower radiator, down the front of the radiator, curves under the radiator and then plugs into a small breather port on the bottom of the fan shroud on the bottom of the bike. Note: you can not see this part of the vent hose unless you take off the lower fairing.

I noticed that this line was tightly pinched between the lower fairiing and the radiator shroud right where the lower fairing bolts to the radiator shroud. This would be the bolt that is reached from up inside the wheel well (for lack of a better term right now). The hose was pinched so tight that there is no way it could perform it's task as a breather line. It was effectively plugged.

Anyways, thought that I would mention this because if this line does not allow the tank to vent it could potentially cause the engine to stall. Hmmmm. Interesting eh?

Ducati Dreams · Jul 21, 2012

I would say that is interesting!

efna said:
So I removed my charcoal canister tonight. Pretty straight forward. Was looking around and noticed something odd that you all might want to check into.

There are to breather/vent lines that run from the gas tank. One goes to the charcaol cannister. The other parrallels this line to the charcoal cannister then runs up in front of the lower radiator, down the front of the radiator, curves under the radiator and then plugs into a small breather port on the bottom of the fan shroud on the bottom of the bike. Note: you can not see this part of the vent hose unless you take off the lower fairing.

I noticed that this line was tightly pinched between the lower fairiing and the radiator shroud right where the lower fairing bolts to the radiator shroud. This would be the bolt that is reached from up inside the wheel well (for lack of a better term right now). The hose was pinched so tight that there is no way it could perform it's task as a breather line. It was effectively plugged.

Anyways, thought that I would mention this because if this line does not allow the tank to vent it could potentially cause the engine to stall. Hmmmm. Interesting eh?

zvez · Jul 22, 2012

typically if a vent line is plugged the tank will have a lot of pressure build up. This happened on my streetfighter before I removed the caniseter, the pressure was so severe it split the paint on my tank.

efna said:
So I removed my charcoal canister tonight. Pretty straight forward. Was looking around and noticed something odd that you all might want to check into.

There are to breather/vent lines that run from the gas tank. One goes to the charcaol cannister. The other parrallels this line to the charcoal cannister then runs up in front of the lower radiator, down the front of the radiator, curves under the radiator and then plugs into a small breather port on the bottom of the fan shroud on the bottom of the bike. Note: you can not see this part of the vent hose unless you take off the lower fairing.

I noticed that this line was tightly pinched between the lower fairiing and the radiator shroud right where the lower fairing bolts to the radiator shroud. This would be the bolt that is reached from up inside the wheel well (for lack of a better term right now). The hose was pinched so tight that there is no way it could perform it's task as a breather line. It was effectively plugged.

Anyways, thought that I would mention this because if this line does not allow the tank to vent it could potentially cause the engine to stall. Hmmmm. Interesting eh?

Cloner · Jul 28, 2012

zvez said:
typically if a vent line is plugged the tank will have a lot of pressure build up. This happened on my streetfighter before I removed the caniseter, the pressure was so severe it split the paint on my tank.

The second line is typically a drain in case you overfill the tank. That's what I teed my vent hose, which used to go to the charcoal canister, into.

Last weekend I experienced the "hard start when hot" issue. I removed the canister early in the week. Yesterday I rode to the Dentist's office in 95° heat, parked in the sun, and had my teeth cleaned (about 45 minutes), then walked out and the old girl started right up. I wonder if the fuel condensed directly into the intake manifolds has anything to do with the hard start issue?

Anybody else had removal of the canister alleviate hard starting when hot?

fireman1251 · Jul 28, 2012

Cloner said:
The second line is typically a drain in case you overfill the tank. That's what I teed my vent hose, which used to go to the charcoal canister, into.

Last weekend I experienced the "hard start when hot" issue. I removed the canister early in the week. Yesterday I rode to the Dentist's office in 95° heat, parked in the sun, and had my teeth cleaned (about 45 minutes), then walked out and the old girl started right up. I wonder if the fuel condensed directly into the intake manifolds has anything to do with the hard start issue?

Anybody else had removal of the canister alleviate hard starting when hot?

Chucked mine on first service, cleared right up!

First Ducati · Jul 28, 2012

Phil said:
took it off and extended the one line, closed the other:

closed line:

fuel line end:

In the first picture, you can see that there is an exhaust spring not connected.

Phl · Jul 28, 2012

sharp eyes! that's right, i had all springs off, as i was also doing the exhaust wrap.

thanks anyway!

First Ducati · Jul 28, 2012

I'm doing this Sunday, thanks for the jpegs.

Kurt

14junkie · Jul 28, 2012

took mine offf three weeks ago and have not had the hot start problem since.....and its been HOT here.

pete

14junkie · Jul 28, 2012

Phil said:
sharp eyes! that's right, i had all springs off, as i was also doing the exhaust wrap.

thanks anyway!

hey phil whats your verdict on the exhaust wrap?

pete

Ducati Dreams · Jul 29, 2012

I would like to remove the canister to fix the problem of hard starts but I also don't want fuel vapors venting into my garage where the water heater and furnace are located. Hhhmmmm

Mastershake · Aug 7, 2012

If you have problems restarting your bike when hot this is the culprit. Comfirmed from my dealer yesterday. They done it to 10 bikes with known hot start issues and it fixed everyone one of them including my own

Phl · Aug 7, 2012

14junkie said:
hey phil whats your verdict on the exhaust wrap?

pete

Don't have the link. Search for exhaust wrap... makes it maybe 7.534% cooler. And look 7.534% better

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