Closed to 1st break-in. 500mi on V4s

Only reason why I got a V4 instead of a 1299S is I get sent out to sea. Rode a 1299S, absolutely fell in love with everything about it, but then got told surprise bitch you're going out to sea. I told the salesman I was gonna buy the 1299 when I got back. While I was out, we pulled into San Diego the day the V4 was announced. MSRP was roughly exactly the same for the base V4 than the 1299S I was looking at. I figured why not, called the dealer from a ...... barracks room and reserved it 5 minutes after the announcement.

The only differences I could really tell were the ergonomics and low speed tuning. The 1299 had my wrists feeling pressure just 15-20 minutes into the ride, whereas the V4 in its OEM form was more easy on them. The 1299 was also very noticeably more narrow, which is something I wish the V4 had but obviously isn't possible with the motor configuration. The V4 is objectively a better bike for urban riding as it is butter smooth without needing to feather the clutch all the way down to about 15mph. The 1299S felt like it was sputtering and struggling to run if I wasn't feathering the clutch below 30mph.

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I call bs. Look at the numbers 0-50 0-60 0-70 and 0-80

Every other one v4 is quicker AND every other one they claim the twin caught back up?

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If the v4 is 1/2 a second quicker from 100-160 how are quarter mile times damn near identical?

bs

Until you get to dragster level mods pretty much all litre bikes are about the same on the 1/4, you are fighting wheelie, wheelspin etc even a K5 gixxer was 10.5 standard with less power.

The hilarious part is the spilt in those times is well within any reasonable run to run variance.

Paul G said:

Until you get to dragster level mods pretty much all litre bikes are about the same on the 1/4, you are fighting wheelie, wheelspin etc even a K5 gixxer was 10.5 standard with less power.

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Dunno bout that my stock k3 with my lard on it went 10.3

k5 with lighter rider should run 9’s no problem

Well said

LOL, this thread went sideways from the OP's main point. And to add to the fun content...

Wow, that Full Carbon V4 Crash guy really messed up his skinny jeans! I will say I learned a lot from him, though. Revzilla is sending me a new clear visor and a carbon fiber riding jacket! My realtor said she can get me a good deal on some full coverage insurance and a paper map of the local road, too! I should be all set thanks to this guy's video!!!! (Thanks for the entertainment, folks.)

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I’ll really stir the pot. These guys seem to think the Ape is better than the V4S. I can only attest to my Ape being VERY forgiving of my mistakes. Yet I still bought a 1299... Hmmm




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Not gonna watch that one either…

Aaron

The Ape might as well be made out of unicorn horns since their dealer network is non-existent here.

2019 though
well the Aprilia is also less fuggly than it used to be so that's good. Still the ugliest of the bunch. The only 1L sport bike uglier is the R1. At least you can say, ya, it's Japanese aesthetic. How can Aprilia be Italian and make such an ugly bike?
I like how they spilled the beans on Ducati secret, "You feel like you're going the fastest." You get in just the right amount of side slide and wheelie but still go fast.
2020-21- they went for faster lap times.

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I’ll really stir the pot. These guys seem to think the Ape is better than the V4S. I can only attest to my Ape being VERY forgiving of my mistakes. Yet I still bought a 1299... Hmmm




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Yeah but does the Panigale V4 drop valves as good as the Ape? Didn’t think so.


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Aprilia has a theme song...Drop them valves like it's hot!!!!

Or drop valves when they're hot. Or drop valves when they are even kinda hot maybe?

I wonder what happens when the universe is expanded by the pixel-space of threads like this one.
In a physics-theory 'butterfly effect' kind of way.
Does the increase in density of vapid posts on the interwebs cause a decrease in density somewhere else? An mater / anti-mater law of balance kind of thing.
What I'm asking is, is this thread causing a blackhole somewhere? I'm not that far from CERN. Maybe I'll pop over and ask.

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I guess the Ducati ABS anti rear lift can't overcome physics...I really wanted to see what riding mode he was in at the settings on the right side of the dash. But, I quickly came to the realization that a 20 something twink getting what he asked for made all of it boring AF.

ETA: This near retard describes it as a high side, or kinda..."

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I think I know why Ol mate in the video crashed that gorgeous specimen of a motorcycle. First I reckon he could do with some tuition from the local racers at his nearest track, but thats obvious.
Second. I was on my way to a ride yesterday to meet up with some mates. I was heading down one of our back roads, a straightish road with a tight right hand bend at the end. So there I was firing up through the gears approachng that right hand bend, flicking down throught the gear box while braking I hit neutral between 2 and 1. Now normaly when this happens I would pull the clutch lever in and select second gear and just go with the flow. However this time around I make a really dumb mistake, drop into first gear and the V4S starts fish tailing while i'm negotiating this tight right hander. So I open up the throttle to settle the bike down and just powered out the corner. Now the traction control light did not blink, but I did not care it was about using the throttle to get out of trouble.

Ol mate in the video, he does the opposite, he hits the brakes hard expecting that to save him, and it didn't.

Superquadro 1299 said:

I think I know why Ol mate in the video crashed that gorgeous specimen of a motorcycle. First I reckon he could do with some tuition from the local racers at his nearest track, but thats obvious.
Second. I was on my way to a ride yesterday to meet up with some mates. I was heading down one of our back roads, a straightish road with a tight right hand bend at the end. So there I was firing up through the gears approachng that right hand bend, flicking down throught the gear box while braking I hit neutral between 2 and 1. Now normaly when this happens I would pull the clutch lever in and select second gear and just go with the flow. However this time around I make a really dumb mistake, drop into first gear and the V4S starts fish tailing while i'm negotiating this tight right hander. So I open up the throttle to settle the bike down and just powered out the corner. Now the traction control light did not blink, but I did not care it was about using the throttle to get out of trouble.

Ol mate in the video, he does the opposite, he hits the brakes hard expecting that to save him, and it didn't.

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I've had that happen on track, but it's fairly clear that's not what happened to him because of the sound. When you hit neutral by accident, revs die off, then when you jam it into a lower gear they quickly climb as motor tries to match the wheel speed. In his instance, by going off sound it's pretty obvious that's not what happened.