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Then there is this floating around the interwebs
 

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I spoke to Jason Chinnock at COTA, he said there is a “custom” collaboration between Duc and Lambo. Not sure what that means. Maybe these are just that, special order. Maybe they won’t do a limited run like the Diavel.
 
I was there. The event was nicely done, from the organizers point of view. The bike is meh. First the Lambo version was unveiled. Not sure what is special about it, besides the color code was matched, and Pirelli did a 1/1 yellow stripe tire for it, supposedly... did not care to listen, lamb chops were floating around being served so I was preoccupied with that.

The second was a full carbon version. Again, meh.

I am prob the only human on this planet not caring about carbon one bit. Don't have/won't have any on my bike.
 
to each his own for colors and style choices.....as for the carbon...my bike came with a good amount of it, so i'll have to live with it :cool:
 
Great job putting this trash seat cover. These are squid versions of cool bikes.

I just wish one person should tear off all the street stuff and transform one to pure track bike. Then we could see the furthest extent of this platform…

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KarlKani said:
Great job putting this trash seat cover. These are squid versions of cool bikes.

I just wish one person should tear off all the street stuff and transform one to pure track bike. Then we could see the furthest extent of this platform…

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We’ll take away the carbon frame and the carbon swingarm and that’s been done. The R frame isn’t a whole lot heavier and I would argue that the SBK extended swingarm isn’t either. So SBU has essentially done that and with a lot better components than the SL (suspension , brakes, electronics). That’s why I never got the V4SL for 100k+

Not going to go down the road of “you can build a better Bike than the factory can sell you” again. That’s been proven now by a lot of people and the SBU build and Karl”s build, HKs build etc show that. I’ll take a showroom V4R and the 65k+ in cash for aftermarket parts all day every day over an SL. I guess for me it’s in their details vs mine. Their details are a numbered top clamp and a signature from the guys who assembled the bike. I would prefer you keep that and give me something other than those .... master cylinders, stock cast lower triple, stock bars, no carbon gas tank, cheap cast rear caliper etc. pretty weak for 100k+ considering BMW gave you a lot better components for less money on their 85k bike
 
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Very true but sbk build spec kinda different in my mind. There is def a difference in the carbon parts in terms of flex // rigidity weather that is good or bad.


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Pretty simple. You give one guy an off the showroom floor SL and we give Freddy 105k and change and let’s see where we end up performance wise.
 
endodoc said:
I spoke to Jason Chinnock at COTA, he said there is a “custom” collaboration between Duc and Lambo. Not sure what that means. Maybe these are just that, special order. Maybe they won’t do a limited run like the Diavel.
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What they ‘Unveiled’ was a new bespoke program for the V4SL….it’s basically just a custom livery program for the bike.

The blue bike was a collaboration with Lambo for a specific client, the black bike was done to a clients spec.

All the employees at NBD were super excited about it….when I was talking to the guys about it I was like: So it’s just a different color way?

They were like: Yes, but you can get it ANY color from the FACTORY….and it’s the FACTORY doing it!!!

Lol

So now, if you want to be the ULTIMATE Ducatista you can get a bespoke livery Superleggera, and order the bespoke Dainese one piece that they make, and the bespoke color way AGV Pista RR helmet….and be the ULTIMATE rider lol

It’s all so very exciting
 
endodoc said:
We’ll take away the carbon frame and the carbon swingarm and that’s been done. The R frame isn’t a whole lot heavier and I would argue that the SBK extended swingarm isn’t either. So SBU has essentially done that and with a lot better components than the SL (suspension , brakes, electronics). That’s why I never got the V4SL for 100k+

Not going to go down the road of “you can build a better Bike than the factory can sell you” again. That’s been proven now by a lot of people and the SBU build and Karl”s build, HKs build etc show that. I’ll take a showroom V4R and the 65k+ in cash for aftermarket parts all day every day over an SL. I guess for me it’s in their details vs mine. Their details are a numbered top clamp and a signature from the guys who assembled the bike. I would prefer you keep that and give me something other than those .... master cylinders, stock cast lower triple, stock bars, no carbon gas tank, cheap cast rear caliper etc. pretty weak for 100k+ considering BMW gave you a lot better components for less money on their 85k bike
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Worse still, you can’t even upgrade many of the components on the V4SL because every bracket, and attachment is bespoke to that bike…no shared part numbers and the geometry is actually different…so you would have to custom fab a lot of aftermarket parts onto that bike instead of just bolting them on.

The one thing that makes the bike even slightly interesting to buy is the engine, it’s not just a V4R engine strapped to all those V4SL bits and bobbins, all the internals of the engine are redesigned abs strengthened and lightened so you have stronger and lighter rotating assemblies manufactured to OEM quality in terms of durability.

That’s no mean feat making a lighter quicker stronger set of engine internals that are built to last through OEM use.

Still though, you can build a better overall bike for sure…the V4SL is only good for one thing….it’s a master piece of OEM engineering and is a Collector Bike for those interested in that kind of thing…and it’s a prelude of what the V4R’s will be 5 years now IF everything isn’t electric by then…

If they switch focus to electric in the next five years then the V4SL becomes the Ducati’s last big hoorah to the petrol platform…i.e. their homage showing what they can do with petrol bike in an OEM setting.
 
V4R and V4SL both use the stradale R engine, they're the same except the SL has lighter camshafts and the various bolts on the engine are Ti.
 
Steven31371 said:
Worse still, you can’t even upgrade many of the components on the V4SL because every bracket, and attachment is bespoke to that bike…no shared part numbers and the geometry is actually different…so you would have to custom fab a lot of aftermarket parts onto that bike instead of just bolting them on.

The one thing that makes the bike even slightly interesting to buy is the engine, it’s not just a V4R engine strapped to all those V4SL bits and bobbins, all the internals of the engine are redesigned abs strengthened and lightened so you have stronger and lighter rotating assemblies manufactured to OEM quality in terms of durability.

That’s no mean feat making a lighter quicker stronger set of engine internals that are built to last through OEM use.

Still though, you can build a better overall bike for sure…the V4SL is only good for one thing….it’s a master piece of OEM engineering and is a Collector Bike for those interested in that kind of thing…and it’s a prelude of what the V4R’s will be 5 years now IF everything isn’t electric by then…

If they switch focus to electric in the next five years then the V4SL becomes the Ducati’s last big hoorah to the petrol platform…i.e. their homage showing what they can do with petrol bike in an OEM setting.
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Good points, especially regarding collectibility of the SL if they go all electric (I hope not).

Regarding the bike being “interesting”, it occurs to me that even though I’m generally a Ducati fan and I’m generally not a BMW fan, I find he HP4 Race far more interesting than the v4 SL.
 

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