Ducati 1299 Panigale S Anniversario - Pictures and Info

double0 said:

Lol another uninformed member.

TJ99 is the product manager for all panigales n hypermotards at the ducati factory. It would be a safe bet to trust his word.

Click to expand...

DAMN!!!

We have the ducati factory product manager on this forum?!?! Holy ....!!! [emoji33][emoji33][emoji33]




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

"DAMN!!!

We have the ducati factory product manager on this forum?!?! Holy ....!!! "


You beat me to it and I hope he read all the good things and bad (need improvements) from owners here

TJ99 said:

No you've misunderstood. The new EVO wheelie and traction control will be available as a free "software flash" upgrade for ANY 1299 except for Japan market bikes. So you don't need a 2017, a 2016 will do just fine.

Click to expand...

Hi TJ99,

will this free update to the EVO DWC/DTC also work on 1299 with a modified/custom tuned engine mapping (e.g. TuneBoy) or Ducati DP Up-Map w/o eliminating this deticated mapping?

jogy said:

Hi TJ99,

will this free update to the EVO DWC/DTC also work on 1299 with a modified/custom tuned engine mapping (e.g. TuneBoy) or Ducati DP Up-Map w/o eliminating this deticated mapping?

Click to expand...

This is a non-issue. Flash the ecu back to stock, get the new agorithms, reflash with your custom trim

ASM said:

The 1299S is a street-legal bike and hence has to obey to noise/emission regulations or otherwise it couldn't be sold. Thus, unless the bike would come with two exhaust systems, it can't be the non-street-legal racing exhaust.

To answer your question (even though I won't know whether Chris got this information there as well), you can find the information on the official Ducati website:

Click to expand...

The Akrapovic exhaust is full titanium. This description is likely just a cut and paste from the standard 1299S.

1299 Panigale S Anniversario » Equipment

The press release said the bike will be available 2nd half of July, anyone heard anything else?
No one mentioned anything about the price here, my dealer said $29k, I didn't negotiate the price yet just put the deposit down. I m guessing this won't be negotiable as it is limited.
My dealer send me this, the order had the cost $24646. I m guessing he didn't notice that he sent me the cost to the dealership

Gecko said:

Do the homologated slipons look the same as on the 1299S (with the black covers)? I couldn't find a picture.

Click to expand...

The slipons aren't homologated, they're the Akras, so they don't look like the OEM. To be clear the bike comes with the OEM homologated exhaust mounted, and the Akra slipons as extra.

Zelnik said:

TJ99,is this the case also with the 1199? Have oem setup Tricolore and it sometimes miss a beat at low revs,can be disturbing "full" on at track. Just curious if full system Termi,(new style) with a proper map can cure this tendency? Or can it be the quickshifter's fault?

Click to expand...

1199 used 58 mm exhaust pipes, while 1299 uses 60 mm. It definitely should not be the quickshifter causing an intermittent miss at low rpm, but I don't know if a pipe and re-map would help.

ASM said:

The 1299S is a street-legal bike and hence has to obey to noise/emission regulations or otherwise it couldn't be sold. Thus, unless the bike would come with two exhaust systems, it can't be the non-street-legal racing exhaust.

To answer your question (even though I won't know whether Chris got this information there as well), you can find the information on the official Ducati website:

Click to expand...

The bike does come with two exhausts. Sorry if that's not clear from the wording on the site/in the press release.

We 1199 owners demand imu and reflash pls

Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk

TJ99 said:

Where are you getting your info? The Anniversario comes with Akra racing slip-ons, i.e. not homologated, i.e. no noise/emissions compliance necessary. So those save some weight and are a bit more free flowing.

Speaking about the exhaust system, the 1299 already has an excellent one as OEM. Same diameter pipes, 60mm, as a "full racing" system. So honestly with this bike slip-ons are pretty damn good, you save a little bit of weight by going to full ti pipes as the Akra full race, but you're not going to get a big performance improvement from more flow.

Click to expand...

Of course, I could be wrong in my interpretation (which is always a possibility), but I got my information from the website (see below).

ASM said:

The 1299S is a street-legal bike and hence has to obey to noise/emission regulations or otherwise it couldn't be sold. Thus, unless the bike would come with two exhaust systems, it can't be the non-street-legal racing exhaust.

To answer your question (even though I won't know whether Chris got this information there as well), you can find the information on the official Ducati website:

Click to expand...

Yep.

That is how I see it also. At the end of the day, it is still a street bike. It even mentions the catalytic converter on the website.

But of course, we are arguing semantics, because I still stand behind my point in the previous post. If somebody has a current 1299S, I don't see this bike being an upgrade. And by "upgrade", I mean if they run a 1:32 on their current bike, they will also run a 1:32 on this Anniversary edition. The limiting factor is the rider, not the bike.

But like I said, if somebody just thinks it is cool and looks good and they want one as a collectors item, by all means go for it. But IMO it would be misguided to trade in a current 1299S for the Anniversary Edition with an assumption that they will be faster on it. Hence me saying that it really isn't an "upgrade" per se.

As always, that is just my opinion.

Chaotic said:

Of course, I could be wrong in my interpretation (which is always a possibility), but I got my information from the website (see below).

Yep.

That is how I see it also. At the end of the day, it is still a street bike. It even mentions the catalytic converter on the website.

But of course, we are arguing semantics, because I still stand behind my point in the previous post. If somebody has a current 1299S, I don't see this bike being an upgrade. And by "upgrade", I mean if they run a 1:32 on their current bike, they will also run a 1:32 on this Anniversary edition. The limiting factor is the rider, not the bike.

But like I said, if somebody just thinks it is cool and looks good and they want one as a collectors item, by all means go for it. But IMO it would be misguided to trade in a current 1299S for the Anniversary Edition with an assumption that they will be faster on it. Hence me saying that it really isn't an "upgrade" per se.

As always, that is just my opinion.

Click to expand...

I'm just trying to make sure everyone has an accurate picture of the bike, and to say that it doesn't come with a race exhaust is not true. The catalytic converter mentioned on website is referring to the homologated exhaust, which the Anniversario has. But it also comes with a 2nd, racing exhaust - the ti Akra slip-ons.

And the facts are that the Anniversario is 2.5 kg lighter and has better strategies for traction and wheelie control, vs a "normal" 1299. It's not a huge difference, for sure. But ceteris paribus - keeping everything else absolutely equal - it actually IS slightly better performing. Put the Yamaha moto-robot on it to remove human inconsistency and it WILL get a little better lap time.

As for rider generally being the limiting factor that's true but we could say that about many sportbikes even at a much lower performance level than this, so it's beside the point. Give Dovi a 959, and try and keep up with him on track, even if you're on a 1299. Very, very few of us could. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't make the bike, does it?

In the end the Anniversario is only a modest price increase over an S. Let's leave aside the better electronics since they'll be available for other 1299s, and say that for that increase, you get a limited edition which holds better value, you get some nice carbon and other parts and an (extra) ti exhaust, and you get a little lighter weight. Plus it looks f'n awesome if I do say so myself

Obviously everyone can judge for him/herself whether it's worth it. All I really want to do is to be a sort of resource for the the actual specs of the bike, since as we all know there is a lot of misinformation on the internet, especially seemingly around new Ducatis. And yes for you guys who don't know me, I work at the factory and am the PM for these bikes, so you can believe the info I give you beyond any other source including but not limited to anything you hear from a dealer, read on the site, etc.

TJ99 said:

I'm just trying to make sure everyone has an accurate picture of the bike, and to say that it doesn't come with a race exhaust is not true. The catalytic converter mentioned on website is referring to the homologated exhaust, which the Anniversario has. But it also comes with a 2nd, racing exhaust - the ti Akra slip-ons.

And the facts are that the Anniversario is 2.5 kg lighter and has better strategies for traction and wheelie control, vs a "normal" 1299. It's not a huge difference, for sure. But ceteris paribus - keeping everything else absolutely equal - it actually IS slightly better performing. Put the Yamaha moto-robot on it to remove human inconsistency and it WILL get a little better lap time.

As for rider generally being the limiting factor that's true but we could say that about many sportbikes even at a much lower performance level than this, so it's beside the point, isn't it? Give Dovi a 959, and try and keep up with him on track, even on a 1299. Very, very few of us could.

In the end the Anniversario is only a modest price increase over an S. Let's leave aside the better electronics since they'll be available for other 1299s, and say that for that increase, you get a limited edition which holds better value, you get some nice carbon and other parts and an (extra) ti exhaust, and you get a little lighter weight. Plus it looks f'n awesome if I do say so myself

Click to expand...

Thanks for the clarification, I didn't know it came with a 2nd exhaust.

I agree on all counts. In 99% of the cases with sportbikes, the rider is the limiting factor.

I personally don't plan on getting one. Mine is already race prepped with a lighter battery, full aftermarket Akra exhaust, lots of Ti, so on and so forth. So aside from the electronics which can be retro-loaded, I would have nothing to gain from an Anniversary edition because I don't care about the "x out of 500" stuff. That stuff won't lower my lap times. But I agree, it does look awesome.

Chaotic said:

Thanks for the clarification, I didn't know it came with a 2nd exhaust.

I agree on all counts. In 99% of the cases with sportbikes, the rider is the limiting factor.

I personally don't plan on getting one. Mine is already race prepped with a lighter battery, full aftermarket Akra exhaust, lots of Ti, so on and so forth. So aside from the electronics which can be retro-loaded, I would have nothing to gain from an Anniversary edition because I don't care about the "x out of 500" stuff. That stuff won't lower my lap times. But I agree, it does look awesome.

Click to expand...

No worries at all that's why I hang out here. You're right that for someone who cares mainly about lap times and already has a modded 1299 it doesn't make sense. Make sure you get yours flashed to the EVO systems when they're made available, they're a lot better!

Anyway this is Ducati...we've got things in the pipeline for plenty of different tastes. So if the Anniversario doesn't do it for you, give it some time and I bet something else will

TJ99 said:

No worries at all that's why I hang out here. You're right that for someone who cares mainly about lap times and already has a modded 1299 it doesn't make sense. Make sure you get yours flashed to the EVO systems when they're made available, they're a lot better!

Anyway this is Ducati...we've got things in the pipeline for plenty of different tastes. So if the Anniversario doesn't do it for you, give it some time and I bet something else will

Click to expand...

When will the EVO system become available and will it be something that can be only be done at a dealer ?
Thanks for being part of the forum it's great information .

TJ99 said:

Anyway this is Ducati...we've got things in the pipeline for plenty of different tastes. So if the Anniversario doesn't do it for you, give it some time and I bet something else will

Click to expand...

Know what would do it for me? A Middleweight bike based on the Panigale. With going to the 899 (then 959), it ruled the Ducati ineligible for MW/600cc/Supersport racing.

I have been really, really hoping the bump to 959 was done to create room for a new MW Panigale (749cc perhaps?).

BUT...I want it to be a 749S or 749R, not some bargain basement offering. In other words, come out with a MW homologation version with forged Marchesini's, quality Brembo Calipers, Ohlins suspension, up/down Quickshifter, etc. In other words, a MW version of my 1299S.

I am thinking such a bike that is race prepped with lightweight sprocket carrier/chain/etc, lightweight battery, lots of Ti, race bodywork, with a good exhaust, tune for race fuel, etc could come in around 325-330lbs, while putting 120-125ish HP and 60-65ish ft/lbs to the rear wheel...with the same sharp handling of the bigger version. It would be an absolute weapon.

Create that bike, and I know of many racers that would be all over it. I would personally get rid of some of my other bikes, buy 2 of those 749S's, and soley race them.

Chaotic said:

your post

Click to expand...

I've been wanting something similar for awhile. I'd sell the 675 and buy one.

mhaddad said:

The press release said the bike will be available 2nd half of July, anyone heard anything else?
No one mentioned anything about the price here, my dealer said $29k, I didn't negotiate the price yet just put the deposit down. I m guessing this won't be negotiable as it is limited.
My dealer send me this, the order had the cost $24646. I m guessing he didn't notice that he sent me the cost to the dealership

Click to expand...

In Switzerland date of delivery is currently scheduled to Dec 2016!!!!
I guess US get them sooner, as usual.

wilkson said:

When will the EVO system become available and will it be something that can be only be done at a dealer ?
Thanks for being part of the forum it's great information .

Click to expand...

Should be around September, have Warren keep you updated

Chaotic said:

Know what would do it for me? A Middleweight bike based on the Panigale. With going to the 899 (then 959), it ruled the Ducati ineligible for MW/600cc/Supersport racing.

I have been really, really hoping the bump to 959 was done to create room for a new MW Panigale (749cc perhaps?).

BUT...I want it to be a 749S or 749R, not some bargain basement offering. In other words, come out with a MW homologation version with forged Marchesini's, quality Brembo Calipers, Ohlins suspension, up/down Quickshifter, etc. In other words, a MW version of my 1299S.

I am thinking such a bike that is race prepped with lightweight sprocket carrier/chain/etc, lightweight battery, lots of Ti, race bodywork, with a good exhaust, tune for race fuel, etc could come in around 325-330lbs, while putting 120-125ish HP and 60-65ish ft/lbs to the rear wheel...with the same sharp handling of the bigger version. It would be an absolute weapon.

Create that bike, and I know of many racers that would be all over it. I would personally get rid of some of my other bikes, buy 2 of those 749S's, and soley race them.

Click to expand...

Yeah I definitely, definitely hear that. Check this thread out, some interesting thoughts on similar themes in here:

http://ducati1299.com/ducati-1199/21383-your-desires-future-roadgoing-ducatis.html