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i don't know what level you are running at the track and i presume expert


Not even close.


And for people who say the 899 is a 1199 in wet mode clearly have not ridden the bike as they are completely different.



Agreed.



in my opinion the 1199 is very hard to ride with a full open throttle as there is just so much power and there are very few places you can do it unless the track has a lot of long straights.


Never said I was pinning it everywhere I went either.



Just stating at my level from going from one bike to another, I was able to utilize "SOME" of the extra HP and torque to my advantage.
 
The insurance on the 1199 was 600 more a year than the 899 ,that's why I got the 899 :) and the 899 felt more comfortable btw
 
i don't know what level you are running at the track and i presume expert but in my opinion the 1199 is very hard to ride with a full open throttle as there is just so much power and there are very few places you can do it unless the track has a lot of long straights.

I personally think that the majority of people would be faster on a 899 then a 1199 as least for me thats the case as it turns in a lot easier and you can use a lot more of the power.

And for people who say the 899 is a 1199 in wet mode clearly have not ridden the bike as they are completely different.

The tracks I've ridden around here I do the following, according to DDA (speed probably reported 5% high):

PIR: 3000 ft straight, about 65 mph entry, max 187 mph, top of 6th
The Ridge: 2700 ft straight, 65 mph entry, max 171 mph, barely 6th
Thunderhill: 2000 ft straight, 100 mph entry, max 170 mph, stay in 5th

I typically ride at about 114% of outright lap record pace.
 
They are different bikes with a different focus, reasons for purchase, etc. It's a common misconception to assume that someone who buys an 899 really wants an 1199 if they could get one for a similar price, but it's not true. We've been selling 1199's for two years now, and now that the 899 is out there is a substantially different group of people coming in to buy them. These are generally not riders who seriously considered buying an 1199 the past two years, but once they saw the 899 come out they are all over it. It was the same with the 848 when it came out after the 1098 had been out for a year, a whole new group of people came in to buy them.

When I decided to graduate from scooters to motorcycles way back in 2009. I can either buy the 1198 or the 848. but since I am a beginer at that time, I decided to get the 848.
 
I ran 110% of lap record on my 899 last time out at Motorsports Park Hastings, and the lap record is held by Shane Turpin on a 1098R. Imagine what Turpin could do on an 899 there! Ha ha! :cool:
 
1) Why would you want to put someone down for getting the less powerful bike? What if they really couldn't handle it safely? Don't we want them to be safe?

2) Neither version is lacking in power for the street. The Engine character of the 899 is more street-able regardless of throttle control.

3) The 1199 899 have a different geometry and as such handle differently.

4) I would have gotten lighter wheels rather than the exhaust. No offense, the exhaust is cool. However I think the wheels would spin up faster lowering the amount of hp you need and they have a nice effect on handling rather than just power with the exhaust.

To me it would either be the 899 or the 1199S/R. I feel like the 1199 base is the odd man out. It lacks the bling I would want buying an 1199 and doesn't have the user friendly engine and easier geometry of the street-able 899. I know that isn't everyone opinion, but that is what it looks like to me.
 
To me it would either be the 899 or the 1199S/R. I feel like the 1199 base is the odd man out. It lacks the bling I would want buying an 1199 and doesn't have the user friendly engine and easier geometry of the street-able 899. I know that isn't everyone opinion, but that is what it looks like to me.

It was between the 899 and the 1199R for me. Having read all the posts on this forum, I decided the 1199 was too much for me to handle on the street.

If I ever find myself at a level whereby I am truly being held back on the track because of the HP / torque of the engine, I will get an 1199. However, my intent was to enjoy the bike and I would have been too paranoid regarding the throttle had I not decided to go with the 899. I am pleased with the decision I finally made and that is what is most important.
 
^That is the way to do it! I wouldn't upgrade my bike until I was sure that it was the bike holding me back and not my own riding skill. Plus the 899 is crazy good on the street, I can't say enough about how fun that thing is.

My choice was made for me as I was searching for a salvage bike at a good price so I had to take what I could get.
 
To be honest my white 899! Get more love than both of my friends 1199r maybe it's just the red wheels :)~
 
A lot of discussion about wether the 899 is a wannabe 1199 bike but to stick to the topic;

Do we have any performance numbers to look at regarding this Ducati Performance upgrade kit? was the upgrade worth it? Dyno numbers etc?
 
mine are more like 6"... if your stupid enough to try any harder on public roads then you deserve all you get


This depends on geographic location.


Here the lack of chicken strips is normal for most riders.


Here, the hotdogs have balled up slicks, and typical people have little to no strips and can do so safely.


Very few places in the world like it, always wondered if Cardenas cut his teeth in the canyons here. Since he is from Columbia, maybe not lol

Nope, he lives 10 minutes away, but here is his bio.

Read about Martin Cardenas, including career highlights, pictures and news about Martin Cardenas right here at Motorcycle USA.



Rider: Martin Cardenas
Nationality: Colombian
Team: M4 Monster Energy Suzuki
Machine: Suzuki GSX-R1000 (#36)
Born: December 9, 1982 in Medellin, ColombiaMartin Cardenas is a Columbian-born roadracer who began racing motocross at 11 years old. After dominating the local motocross scene, Cardenas made his way to roadracing in the regional ranks. He made a name for himself by capturing back-to-back titles in the Latin American Supersport Championship and Spanish Supersport CEV Championship during 2003 and 2004, respectively. The Colombian then went on to the 250 MotoGP series where he became the first ever Colombian to compete. Following a nasty crash that resulted in a broken collarbone in 2006, Cardenas was unable to continue in the series due to a lack of strength.

Shortly after moving to the U.S. in 2007 Cardenas became involved in AMA Superstock. He was offered a ride with the M4 Suzuki squad as a replacement for an injured rider, and since then he's become a staple for the Suzuki team.

In 2009 Cardenas appeared as a serious threat for the Daytona SportBike title. With seven wins and three podiums, Cardenas was well on his way to victory when a major crash at VIR removed him from the championship running. Cardenas returned for 2010 in a determined fashion, however. Posting nine wins and another three podiums, Cardenas claimed his first title in the U.S.
 
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This depends on geographic location.

I have to disagree, if your willing to lean over that far and yet you have no control over the traffic/pedestrians/animals or road conditions then you are simply inviting something bad to happen.
 

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