End of R and new 1299?

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Jariva said:
What is the problem with Ducati trying to make some money selling motorbikes? Some people here seem to think that since you just bought a 1199S, 1199R, Tricolore or SL or whatever version, Ducati should stop bringing new models to the market for X amount of years. If you just bought an R, are you pissed off because now there is SL. If you just bought SL will you be pissed off when the 1299 comes out? How many years should Ducati wait before daring to introduce a new model?

I have never understood this kind of mentality. Same with the guys who say they will not buy a bike this year because next year's model might be an upgraded version. So rather than riding a bike for a year they wait because next year's bike will have slightly different looking headlight.
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My only problem with it is when buyers might wait for a year if they knew an "R" or what not was coming out. Rather, Ducati and the dealers always deny anything and want to get you on whatever model is on the showroom floor.
 
jarelj said:
It's an Ohlins RSP40 shock, the kind of shock you only get if you are a factory World Superbike team, and it's mounted opposite how a stock Panigale shock is mounted, with the adjusters toward the front. I believe the clutch master cylinder is a billet Brembo unit, not a Nissin.
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Jarel hits it on the nail (again) :)

that's part of the 100K a year OHlins factory LEASE/SERVICE deal... they don't own these shocks , they just get the use of them.. the internals are completely diferrent as they work not on cartridges but on a sort of steering damper internal system...
 
AntiHero said:
Interesting....I'll never be one to ask for less power, so I hope it's true.
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+1...was thinking about trading in my S for an R...may wait a few months to see if there is anything to this rumor. Plus I'm taking delivery of my HP4 next week...so that'll keep my entertained for a little while:D
 
gnance said:
My only problem with it is when buyers might wait for a year if they knew an "R" or what not was coming out. Rather, Ducati and the dealers always deny anything and want to get you on whatever model is on the showroom floor.
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This makes perfect business sense and this tactic is practiced by many sales driven businesses. The term is called S.W.A.T.

S-ell
W-hat's
A-vailable
T-oday

If sales driven businesses had to rely on the chance of someone coming back at a later date to purchase the newer model of anything, most would struggle to stay in business. Technology is a perfect example of that. We buy computers and techy gadgets left n right, which are already outdated from the minute they hit the stores. Well, at least the U.S. market. This strategy takes advantage of those buyers who lack patience and are on the fence about "upgrading". "Walking" a potential buyer is never an option in a sales driven business.
 
kope999R said:
Jarel hits it on the nail (again) :)

that's part of the 100K a year OHlins factory LEASE/SERVICE deal... they don't own these shocks , they just get the use of them.. the internals are completely diferrent as they work not on cartridges but on a sort of steering damper internal system...
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holy crap 100k :eek:
 
Jariva said:
What is the problem with Ducati trying to make some money selling motorbikes? Some people here seem to think that since you just bought a 1199S, 1199R, Tricolore or SL or whatever version, Ducati should stop bringing new models to the market for X amount of years. If you just bought an R, are you pissed off because now there is SL. If you just bought SL will you be pissed off when the 1299 comes out? How many years should Ducati wait before daring to introduce a new model?

I have never understood this kind of mentality. Same with the guys who say they will not buy a bike this year because next year's model might be an upgraded version. So rather than riding a bike for a year they wait because next year's bike will have slightly different looking headlight.
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I have never had a problem with Ducati bringing out new models. I, however have a big problem with Ducati bringing out the Panigale Tricolore at a certain price and then putting the "R" on the market for just a thousand or so dollars more, while having a lot of extra goodies, effectively destroying the second hand value of the Tricolore. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 
Claymore said:
I have never had a problem with Ducati bringing out new models. I, however have a big problem with Ducati bringing out the Panigale Tricolore at a certain price and then putting the "R" on the market for just a thousand or so dollars more, while having a lot of extra goodies, effectively destroying the second hand value of the Tricolore. :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
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True but that's life and business...:( I do understand your feelings. Its not like you can wait for the next model, just in case...forever because every year, Ducati may come out with something better with fraction of $ more.

I am glad that SL is $60-65k since that makes me easily not want to buy it even when I can. I think SL is a great bike but logical reasons to not buy it is stronger. :D
 
Stw said:
Zaster.....did you ever ride a "plain" 1199??
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I got to ride an S my dealer brought to our annual outing in Ouray, CO called DITR.
Back then I read about all the issues of the 1199 and decided to hold off for the next model year. I managed to stay away from stepping into my dealers showroom until the following spring and when I did I saw the R, end of story :D
Had a blast riding the S and really did not need the extras the R offered.

Just got home from riding her in the mountains, what a blast and can't wait to do it again.
 
Jariva said:
What is the problem with Ducati trying to make some money selling motorbikes? Some people here seem to think that since you just bought a 1199S, 1199R, Tricolore or SL or whatever version, Ducati should stop bringing new models to the market for X amount of years. If you just bought an R, are you pissed off because now there is SL. If you just bought SL will you be pissed off when the 1299 comes out? How many years should Ducati wait before daring to introduce a new model?

I have never understood this kind of mentality. Same with the guys who say they will not buy a bike this year because next year's model might be an upgraded version. So rather than riding a bike for a year they wait because next year's bike will have slightly different looking headlight.
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Lets face it the the 1199 R should have been called an SP. I had no problem with the 1098 R, buying a 1098 TRi was a world of difference in cost and performance. Shelling out 27 k for the tri and 1 year later an R comes out with ti rods, full exhaust and all carbon for 29k is slap in the face. I wish I waited a year............lol
 
ed218 said:
Lets face it the the 1199 R should have been called an SP. I had no problem with the 1098 R, buying a 1098 TRi was a world of difference in cost and performance. Shelling out 27 k for the tri and 1 year later an R comes out with ti rods, full exhaust and all carbon for 29k is slap in the face. I wish I waited a year............lol
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I remember being 32k first year no?
 
I for one would love to have a 1299cc engine for Ducati. The question is will wsbk allow them to race it. when ducati was winning on the 1098 engine (1198cc) every manufacturer was complaining saying that the the extra cc is what fueled Ducati wins. Now that the Panigale is not winning maybe they will cut them some slack and allow a 1299 cc engine.

I sure hope this is true
 
2013 R was $29,995
2014 R is $30,995

Changed a $1000 for some expensive hazard lights.

The tricolore at $27,995 was just overpriced. You got a nice paint scheme and a termi slipon. Maybe a carbon bit or two? Still wasn't worth the $5k difference from a standard S. Ducati just messed up on their pricing. Tri shoulda been $25,995. That woulda been reasonable.

All USD by the way. I still say next R will probably be $40k.
 
double0 said:
2013 R was $29,995
2014 R is $30,995

Changed a $1000 for some expensive hazard lights.

The tricolore at $27,995 was just overpriced. You got a nice paint scheme and a termi slipon. Maybe a carbon bit or two? Still wasn't worth the $5k difference from a standard S. Ducati just messed up on their pricing. Tri shoulda been $25,995. That woulda been reasonable.

All USD by the way. I still say next R will probably be $40k.
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Tricolore is Tricolore - Ducati pandering to owners that want show more than go :)

Now, if I had an R, I would be asking myself if it was worth the premium over an S, for 500rpm, Ti rods and a half painted tank ;)
 
Xbox said:
Now, if I had an R, I would be asking myself if it was worth the premium over an S, for 500rpm, Ti rods and a half painted tank ;)
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No you wouldn't

I said that until I upgraded my S for an R. It was just excuses in my head to justify not getting or make me feel better about not having one!!

Got one, will never look back. That R somehow manages to be far better mannered, especially round town, none of the first gear surging etc. more confident in corners, but still ballistic when you crack it open.......... Bloody marvellous if you ask me

Worth it? You bet your ass it is!!! :D
 
Mutt1979 said:
No you wouldn't

I said that until I upgraded my S for an R. It was just excuses in my head to justify not getting or make me feel better about not having one!!

Got one, will never look back. That R somehow manages to be far better mannered, especially round town, none of the first gear surging etc. more confident in corners, but still ballistic when you crack it open.......... Bloody marvellous if you ask me

Worth it? You bet your ass it is!!! :D
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I would love to try an R and I'm sure it rides great.

Better low speed manners have got to be largely due to the revised gearing. Need to get my finger out on that mod.
 

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