Finally got the 1199 on the dyno - video

JeffD · Jan 23, 2014

Ducati 1199 Dyno Run - YouTube

Results:

1/4 and 1/2 throttle pulls show AFR all over the place:

20 minutes after my 1199 was dyno'd, a 2013 HP4 with 1,600 miles and included Akrapovic slip-on put down 183.11:

And another 10 minutes later a 2013 ZX-10R with the "Ivan Wire Mod" and an FmF 3/4 slip-on system pulled 178.14:

With just Termignoni Slip-Ons + Up-Map and an MWR "High Efficiency" (not race) air filter, I'm quite happy with the results. I do envy how smooth that HP4 powerband is, but damn the delivery of the 1199 is just brutal and I still love it, at only 4.28 rwhp less. Next time I'm going to take the time and get the torque also.

I'm really curious how much more a Termi header would provide for about $1,500. And I'm super-curious how much more a Akrapovic Evolution full system would provide for another $3,000 plus tuning.

Not sure I'm going to do anything else, frankly. It's still under warranty for over a year and it runs so great I don't want to mess with it.

jwm2k3 · Jan 24, 2014

Your bike is beautiful!

dznutz · Jan 24, 2014

Wheres the torque? horsepower is useless

I find it funny that a dyno reads torque, and yet they forgot to give you that print out

JeffD · Jan 24, 2014

dznutz said:
Wheres the torque? horsepower is useless

I find it funny that a dyno reads torque, and yet they forgot to give you that print out

He couldn't get the sensor mounted with the bodywork on. It was Cycle Gear (USA motorcycle accessory retail chain) Bike Night and there was line of people waiting to get the dyno. I also wanted to get the torque reading, but I wouldn't say that rwhp is "useless."

transdesigner · Jan 24, 2014

So the extra 6+hp from the MWR is included in that, and it's 4 under the hp4 and on par with the 10R.

According to some, you'd be at 172hp without the MWR...

(As much as I joke about the MWR hp claims, I ordered one lol)

Charliem90 · Jan 24, 2014

JeffD said:
He couldn't get the sensor mounted with the bodywork on. It was Cycle Gear (USA motorcycle accessory retail chain) Bike Night and there was line of people waiting to get the dyno. I also wanted to get the torque reading, but I wouldn't say that rwhp is "useless."

/shrug

Don't really need it. If you know HP at specific RPM, you can calculate torque since HP is a function of Torque*RPM / 5,252

Mitchlguzin · Jan 24, 2014

What I love is how the fan is blowing directly into the radiator and nowhere near the ram-air inlets for the intake...

Makes you think that if they're efficient at creating pressure at speed, they gotta be good for some more HP's...

JeffD · Jan 24, 2014

Charliem90 said:
/shrug

Don't really need it. If you know HP at specific RPM, you can calculate torque since HP is a function of Torque*RPM / 5,252

I knew that! But obviously forgot it

Thanks for the reminder Charlie. The problem was that he couldn't hook up the RPM sensor which the Dynojet software would have used and calculated torque automatically. Hence just the speed trace at the bottom. I do want to know what the torque is just for my own edification so hopefully he'll give me a discount on another run. Just 3 pulls with AFR was $50 already.

JeffD · Jan 24, 2014

transdesigner said:
So the extra 6+hp from the MWR is included in that, and it's 4 under the hp4 and on par with the 10R.

According to some, you'd be at 172hp without the MWR...

(As much as I joke about the MWR hp claims, I ordered one lol)

Strangely enough, the other local Panigales have dyno'd lower than what I got, and I don't think any of them have the MWR HE filter

I know Leon on the forum had his dyno'd by the same operator on the same dyno on a similarly dry/cool day, and another shop owner who has an 1199 did it the same day and they were 2 rwhp apart IIRC. Both of their intake/exhausts are stock.

I need to find out what it was because perhaps the difference was actually due to the Termi slips/up-map/MWR HE. And maybe theirs were built on Fridays...

Edit - got hold of the shop owner and his bone stock 2012 1199 pulled 169 rwhp on the same dyno/operator. He is just installing the Rapidbike module and the Rexxer flash, to be combined with Termi slips and an MWR HE filter. Looking forward to see what his new numbers are. I said I didn't care to do anything else but looking at that rich mid-range, I'd love to do something if my local dealer says it won't affect my warranty.

Ljuice26 · Jan 24, 2014

yup yup

JeffD is correct. had my dyno'ed by the same operator. My bike is stock except for the MWR HE air filter. my bike dyno'ed at 170.78. Yaman's bike was a little less at the time.

Brad · Jan 24, 2014

Mitchlguzin said:
What I love is how the fan is blowing directly into the radiator and nowhere near the ram-air inlets for the intake...

Makes you think that if they're efficient at creating pressure at speed, they gotta be good for some more HP's...

Quite

JeffD · Jan 24, 2014

Ljuice26 said:
JeffD is correct. had my dyno'ed by the same operator. My bike is stock except for the MWR HE air filter. my bike dyno'ed at 170.78. Yaman's bike was a little less at the time.

Thanks Leon. Unfortunately, my rwhp advantage is negated by my inferior hp-to-weight ratio

Ljuice26 · Jan 24, 2014

JeffD said:
Thanks Leon. Unfortunately, my rwhp advantage is negated by my inferior hp-to-weight ratio

Man, I'm still debating on what exhaust to buy. Or, just get some BSTs/Cattiva R 7 spoke. Too many options. When are you going back to the track? Road ATL and Barber await.....

JeffD · Jan 24, 2014

Ljuice26 said:
Man, I'm still debating on what exhaust to buy. Or, just get some BSTs/Cattiva R 7 spoke. Too many options. When are you going back to the track? Road ATL and Barber await.....

Ultra-light wheels all day long over any exhaust. Coming from the base wheels they make literally 10 times the performance difference over an exhaust, especially at a tight twisty track like Jennings. BSTs or Rotoboxes would even cost less than an Akrapovic Evolution system, without the required fuel controller and tuning required.

Now that you're a track junkie, if you're bent on doing mods I would do suspension setup first, then upgrade it next, followed by ultralight wheels, then finally power mods last. Reputable track schools before all of those though.

Ljuice26 · Jan 24, 2014

JeffD, I have the full Bitubo suspension. The bike handles flawlessly. PBIR was a blast last month. Going to Homestead next Sunday.

JeffD · Jan 24, 2014

Ljuice26 said:
JeffD, I have the full Bitubo suspension. The bike handles flawlessly. PBIR was a blast last month. Going to Homestead next Sunday.

Sorry bro. I've got a full-blown case of CRS.

Can't remember $#&@...

transdesigner · Jan 24, 2014

JeffD said:
Strangely enough, the other local Panigales have dyno'd lower than what I got, and I don't think any of them have the MWR HE filter

I know Leon on the forum had his dyno'd by the same operator on the same dyno on a similarly dry/cool day, and another shop owner who has an 1199 did it the same day and they were 2 rwhp apart IIRC. Both of their intake/exhausts are stock.

I need to find out what it was because perhaps the difference was actually due to the Termi slips/up-map/MWR HE. And maybe theirs were built on Fridays...

Edit - got hold of the shop owner and his bone stock 2012 1199 pulled 169 rwhp on the same dyno/operator. He is just installing the Rapidbike module and the Rexxer flash, to be combined with Termi slips and an MWR HE filter. Looking forward to see what his new numbers are. I said I didn't care to do anything else but looking at that rich mid-range, I'd love to do something if my local dealer says it won't affect my warranty.

Thanks for posting this. Ljuice's numbers on the same dyno makes it interesting.

Brad · Jan 24, 2014

JeffD said:
Ultra-light wheels all day long over any exhaust. Coming from the base wheels they make literally 10 times the performance difference over an exhaust, especially at a tight twisty track like Jennings. BSTs or Rotoboxes would even cost less than an Akrapovic Evolution system, without the required fuel controller and tuning required.

Now that you're a track junkie, if you're bent on doing mods I would do suspension setup first, then upgrade it next, followed by ultralight wheels, then finally power mods last. Reputable track schools before all of those though.

Excellent advise

kope999R · Jan 25, 2014

BRAD : Good advice from JEFFD indeed .. Want pull : stick On 42 Sprocket .. 50. USD ..

kope999R · Jan 25, 2014

Good thing The dyno is not a Top numbers machine .
Reliable nrs rearwheel Din are :
172 stock
178 evo line stock engine
182 pro pipe stock engine
184 pro pipe Mwr + timing Done
189 Sbk pipe R engine
193 Sbk pipe r Engine RS cams
201 RS Sbk RS engine
208 factory Engine

All without pushing REV limits and with normal Life expectancy or maintenance at that particular level
Anything over these numbers are more of an indication of optimism or eating lfespan

These are numbers coming from at least 6 different dynos and 12 bikes from stock to the Alstare crew in different stage of development

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