Fuel

nick1199

nick1199

Joined Jan 2012
294 Posts | 2+
sydney
Was just wondering the other day.
I use 98 octane from BP and i always use that on my car. I don't use 98 from Caltex or 98 from Shell. There shouldn't be much difference between the same grade fuel from different fuel companies right?

So i should be able to fill up 98 octane from any fuel station.

Just wondering if anyone else sticks to the same rating fuel from one provider so doesn't it matter. Maybe it's even good to mix it up? not sure.
 
ALL fuel has to comply to strict specs. These specs can and do differ from country to country and summer to winter. So there should be no difference in the basic fuel. In fact oil companies do product swaps to eliminate transporting fuels. Company A will lift from company B in one region and then that will be paid back in another area. The differentiator is in the additives that the oil companies put in at the pumps (they don't swap additives!). These additives do differentiate the fuels to make some better than others and claims of keeping your engine cleaner than any other fuel have been upheld in the courts. But to answer your question the basic specs - octane number, oxygenates, sulphur, benzene, etc, etc will be on a par.
 
Nick, do you guys have ethanol over there? Ethanol was the suspect with the 1x98 tank swelling issue here.
 
jjmontesanto said:
Nick, do you guys have ethanol over there? Ethanol was the suspect with the 1x98 tank swelling issue here.
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yeah we do have ethanol fuel but that's labelled as such (91 + ethanol) so for 95 or 98 octane there is no ethanol present.

looks like using the same rating fuel from the same provider is the best option for running consistency then.
 
Stay away from ethanol fuel if you can since it does screw up injectors, carbs etc. not to mention the reduced power vs. plain gasoline.
Find your bike's favorite fuel and stick with it:)
 
As long as you're over 91 you will be fine. One thing you typically don't want to do is fill up when the pump is slow, which means you're down towards the bottom of the tank where all the sediments are. But as long as you're sticking with name-brand gas, you can mix/match and won't have any issues.

The expanding tank issue won't be a problem with an aluminum tank, but Ethanol is still bad and Ducati can even deny warranty claims because of it.
 
On my weekly Friday morning ride, I go to areas where there is limited availability of the fuel I would normally use.

So I normally fill up with 98 ("Super") but in the outlying areas I can only get 95("special"), so fill with that. I've been doing it for aslong as I remember without any ill effects to date. I also use different "brand" fuel as each Emirate/province has their own distributor/fuel companies and tie ups with fuel majors such as Shell and Caltex. No issues.

Not an expert but I think if you stay above the minimum recommended octane level you will be ok, atleast here. The octane rating should be a minimum rating anyway, ie 95 rated is actually 96/97. Also think Ducati's octane recomendation has a "margin". All provided ofcourse no ethanol,or other "weird" additives.
 
I use 95 from a well known distributor in Belgium. I just fill her up when I leave ( one minute drive to the gasstation ).

Just curious Delta one, what does one liter of fuell cost in Dubai?
Overhere in Belgium one liter 95 ( the cheapest I can find ) is €1,501 which at todays rate is 1,25$
 
jjmontesanto said:
Yep.

Gulf Coast, you don't happen to work for BP do ya? Just curious given your location.
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Not BP but another major oil company. Been refining fuel all my life and around the world. Paid for the Duc and other toys!!

PS - industry regulators in the US have just publicly declared that when conducting engine tests with ethanol they found that it could be causing engine issues so watch this space!
 
I think I posted that in another topic recently.

It's AED 1.72 per liter that's US $ 0.46 , Euro 0.37 , or UK Pound 0.29 It is kindly subsidised by the government here.

However for the region that's actually pretty expensive and it might be reduced by upto 60% soon , as we are the most expensive in Gulf. See the link below.

Petrol price should be cut, says FNC - The National
 
Delta One said:
I think I posted that in another topic recently.

It's AED 1.72 per liter that's US $ 0.46 , Euro 0.37 , or UK Pound 0.29 It is kindly subsidised by the government here.

However for the region that's actually pretty expensive and it might be reduced by upto 60% soon , as we are the most expensive in Gulf. See the link below.

Petrol price should be cut, says FNC - The National
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:eek: €0,37 / liter. Dude, that is awesome! I'm happy for you :D. Prices are luckily dropping here because it was as high as €1,8 for one liter.
 
LOL!! Yeah not bad, but consider most of what you pay in Europe/US is actually taxes by the government not fuel.

On the flip side I paid more for my bike than the US guys did :(
 
Delta One said:
LOL!! Yeah not bad, but consider most of what you pay in Europe/US is actually taxes by the government not fuel.

On the flip side I paid more for my bike than the US guys did :(
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I know :(. Belgium has this system ( I don't know how it's named in English ) that works as following. When the prices go up they raise the price of the tax. When the prices go down, it's only the part of the price that the oil companies ask that goes down. The tax will stay the same. For example : the tax can go from 50% to 55% or higher. But when the price drops it won't ever go back to 50%.
 
The cheapest here in Sydney was yesterday actually. For 98octane it was only $1.45aud per litre

That equals:
€1,17
$1.46usd

Normally it's about $1.60aud per litre. That's
€1,29
$1.61usd
 
Hakosuka said:
I know :(. Belgium has this system ( I don't know how it's named in English ) that works as following. When the prices go up they raise the price of the tax. When the prices go down, it's only the part of the price that the oil companies ask that goes down. The tax will stay the same. For example : the tax can go from 50% to 55% or higher. But when the price drops it won't ever go back to 50%.
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In English I think it's called getting F*"^ed
 
Gulf Coast said:
Not BP but another major oil company. Been refining fuel all my life and around the world. Paid for the Duc and other toys!!

PS - industry regulators in the US have just publicly declared that when conducting engine tests with ethanol they found that it could be causing engine issues so watch this space!
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Good to have someone in the industry on here to give us good info, thanks GC!
 
Why don't we have 95 and 98 octane at our pumps in America ?! We're supposed to be the more advanced country right?! What's with freakkin 91 octane only, and rideing to redwood city is not my idea of filling up!!!
 

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