Gearing Change Strategy

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RickD996 said:
I have a ride height tool and adjust shock length to compensate.

I don't notice any difference in antisquat/squat (terms I don't usually refer to). I'm not 100% sure if the ride height corrects this, as obviously the swingarm is at a different angle, or maybe it isn't. But the axle is located differently in the hub, so angle of thrust must be different. You can certainly dive very deep on setup with this swingarm. My 2016 ZX10R was the same, change of wheelbase effected geometry/ride height, but my S1000RR it didn't.
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@RickD996 do you have some reference numbers you compare to when you compensate length?

I am currently running 312mm shock (default length) and 30mm sag, but longer wheelbase (7mm shorter than max wheelbase, which gives me 6mm ride height increase over lowest ride height in the middle of the hub). Bike feels good but could be better. Wondering how much to compensate on shock length....
 
Wito said:
@RickD996 do you have some reference numbers you compare to when you compensate length?

I am currently running 312mm shock (default length) and 30mm sag, but longer wheelbase (7mm shorter than max wheelbase, which gives me 6mm ride height increase over lowest ride height in the middle of the hub). Bike feels good but could be better. Wondering how much to compensate on shock length....
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Get a ride height tool!
 
Back to the original theme a sec. "Gearing Change Strategy." I was toying with the same idea as I was feeling half the track I'm usually at was somewhere between 2 & 3rd ideally.
Two Race instructors told me I was bonkers going to lower gearing with a 200+ hp bike. They said go taller if anything and you can use 1st-2nd in chicanes. This would be perfect @ Misano for sure. I'm going to try a different riding strategy before changing gears, but I'm curious about your thoughts.
@RickD996 Regarding some of your statements, sorry not exact quotes, something like, 'no 2 riders have the exact same solution - each track to its owns etc.'
What's you reasoning in setting up a bike with more torque / less top speed? The tracks you're at are that tight or looking for some magic somewhere else?
 
Vbreeze said:
Back to the original theme a sec. "Gearing Change Strategy." I was toying with the same idea as I was feeling half the track I'm usually at was somewhere between 2 & 3rd ideally.
Two Race instructors told me I was bonkers going to lower gearing with a 200+ hp bike. They said go taller if anything and you can use 1st-2nd in chicanes. This would be perfect @ Misano for sure. I'm going to try a different riding strategy before changing gears, but I'm curious about your thoughts.
@RickD996 Regarding some of your statements, sorry not exact quotes, something like, 'no 2 riders have the exact same solution - each track to its owns etc.'
What's you reasoning in setting up a bike with more torque / less top speed? The tracks you're at are that tight or looking for some magic somewhere else?
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Two issues with using first to fifth, rather than second to sixth:

1. Down changing from second to first, very occasionally you enter neutral.
2. The engine is mapped for less power/torque in first gear.
3. The engine is mapped for higher revs in sixth gear.

I even gave a bonus third benefit!
 
Wito said:
@RickD996 do you have some reference numbers you compare to when you compensate length?

I am currently running 312mm shock (default length) and 30mm sag, but longer wheelbase (7mm shorter than max wheelbase, which gives me 6mm ride height increase over lowest ride height in the middle of the hub). Bike feels good but could be better. Wondering how much to compensate on shock length....
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I have a ride height tool, but you could measure two reference points on the bike (one on bike, one on the swingarm). Maybe from the rear tail fairing bolt, to the top of the axle. Measure before adjusting gearing or wheelbase. Then measure after making the change. Then, if necessary, adjust the shock length until your measurement between the two points equals the first measurement you took.

To measure wheelbase, you need to measure from the centre of the swingarm pivot, to the centre of the rear axle.

I don't measure sag. Although I do measure preload in mm (remove shock spring, measure height, refit, measure spring height, the difference is your preload).
 
RickD996 said:
Two issues with using first to fifth, rather than second to sixth:

1. Down changing from second to first, very occasionally you enter neutral.
2. The engine is mapped for less power/torque in first gear.
3. The engine is mapped for higher revs in sixth gear.

I even gave a bonus third benefit!
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Solid. Just that, "I'm about to die" feeling because of #1 on corner-entry, maybe alone, makes it all worth it.
 
I’m running a 15/43 setup and might make it even shorter, the idea of switching down to 1st gear doesn’t sit well with me, only one track in my area has a straight where you MIGHT exceed 170 mph so giving up some top end speed to be in a better part of the power band in
Paul G said:
British made quality
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haha, I dunno if I’d associate British with ‘made quality’ lol

I associate British with sexy and very good initial performance, but not quality

Every MaClaren, Lotus, Jaguar, and Range Rover I ever had or know guys who had are VERY sexy high performing builds, that break constantly and repeatedly lol and the failures range from constant annoying minor failures to big catastrophic failures lol

Very sexy design in all things British in Motorsports, but my experience is beautiful design and conceptualization but poor build quality that requires constant attention lol

British Motorsports are like a super model girlfriend that teases you with an occasional life changing .... but day to day isn’t worth the headache lol
 
SuperDomestique said:
If there’s a story, do tell! I’ll get us some lattes
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no good if you weren't there...were you even born then?
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and yes there was a story...folk law had it that the K bloke was dissing the O stuff in favour of his own new product... in front of the international director for O..... oops!
 

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