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I'm taking it in for the first service and to have my Termi system installed. Should help out with some troubleshooting the starting issue. If it still has problems then it isn't the fueling. If there aren't anymore issues then the stock mapping is the culprit and should be an easy fix for Ducati.
 
Just dropped it off and Ducati is aware of the problem, service manager said it's possibly a starter issue. With all the electronics running the starter might be sapping too much juice for the computers. If you turn on your ignition on without starting the bile you can actually hear all the electronics humming.
 
bwaide said:
Just dropped it off and Ducati is aware of the problem, service manager said it's possibly a starter issue. With all the electronics running the starter might be sapping too much juice for the computers. If you turn on your ignition on without starting the bile you can actually hear all the electronics humming.
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Plz keep us posted, I can't wait til 1st service to get this resolved...I ride everyday.

It'll be interesting to compare what all our techs say.
 
I think it's an idel issue a previously mentioned. I have a Tri with slip ons and as soon as it seems like it wont start, I give a very slight turn on the throttle and it starts right up.
 
DUCENZO,

I have experienced this issue as well with it shutting off. I start it in the morning and after maybe 30 seconds it just turns off.

It happened to me twice today after the ride into work, it was off for at least 3 hours.

I had it one time when stopping at a red light it just shut off.

I am taking it in today and will have the service team take a look at it.

As for starting up it takes a few seconds but starts up every single time without the help of the throttle.

I will keep everyone posted.

I currently have 300 miles on my bike and it's about 2 weeks old.

Panigale S with ABS

DUCENZO said:
I too have had this problem, at random times. whether tis been sitting for an hour or sitting overnight, even when the bike is hot from riding.

I habitually start it in nuetral to eliminate the clutch dragging, that doesn't help.

When this happens, the only way I can get her started is if I open throttle a little while starting.

I've also had it shut off on my while sitting idle, even at a stop light...its becoming embarrassing :-/

..ready for some answers
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My Tech says Ducati is aware of the strating issue, in face they have one just in the shop and replacing the starter.

He says it might be that the battery is too small, but I think they replacing the starter is a part of the troubleshooting.

I also insisted that he communicates all these issues with Ducati and he says he does.

He said I could bring my bike in to get looked at, but I'd have to leave it...naturally im reluctant to do that, it being the weekend (and Bike night tonight, and my crew riding to vintage Bike show sponsored by my dealership)

At this point I'd almost take a smoking bike that starts over a non smoking one that struggles to start half the time lol.
 
Last summer when the temp out was upwards of 90 to 100 degrees I had this problem with my 848. When I looked at my temp gauge after I turned the bike on though it read 110 degrees. I think it partly has to do with the temp gauge getting a false reading from the heat of the road while it is sitting still, and in turn probably ....... the fuel mixture and isnt getting enough fuel to combust when starting. The engine was being fooled into thinking it was hotter than it really was. When I talked to my dealer he said it was because the bike was getting the temp of the cement it is sitting on. If you give it a little bit of throttle when starting the bike it should start right up.
 
elitesoldier357 said:
Last summer when the temp out was upwards of 90 to 100 degrees I had this problem with my 848. When I looked at my temp gauge after I turned the bike on though it read 110 degrees. I think it partly has to do with the temp gauge getting a false reading from the heat of the road while it is sitting still, and in turn probably ....... the fuel mixture and isnt getting enough fuel to combust when starting. The engine was being fooled into thinking it was hotter than it really was. When I talked to my dealer he said it was because the bike was getting the temp of the cement it is sitting on. If you give it a little bit of throttle when starting the bike it should start right up.
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Sir, have you been reading all the posts? Some of our bikes won't start in the morning when it's nice and cool. Shuts off at a stop lights. Shuts off while sitting at idle....
 
Spoke to Sebastian today. He's already filed the issue with Ducati. I can't say enough good things about the way he does business.

He thinks it will be a simple fix. I'm not worried, but like others mentioned it embarrassing. With the heat I'd prefer to cut the bike off at a light, but I'm scared she won't fire back up.

Hopefully Ducati has a fix ASAP.
 
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SOULRIDER said:
That makes 3 from Florida.

I had issues with mine, but I noticed if I gave it just a little gas she fired right up when warm. Honestly I mostly attributed it to the bike not being broken in.

My wife is saddened that we are not having kids. The combination of the Florida heat, and the rear cylinder head has cooked all the mini-me's.
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I've noticed giving it a little gas works on mine too. Had happened to me about 4 times. Never had a problem from cold start and those 4 times were always from a restart when I stopped by to do something, and always when the engine was at operating temperature. I won't say hot because some people might think that the bike was overheating.

The last 2 times I gave it a little gas and she started right up. I discovered how to do this because I stalled the bike at a light(another issue that's going around) and she wouldn't start... so I gave it a little throttle and she fired right up. I'm sure this will be addressed soon. Not worried.
 
had a little moment this morning with starting cold
took longer than usual, so i just tuned throttle 10-20% ten back to off position and away it went
happy if thats all i got to do
1st time it has ever done it
 
mrmaloo32 said:
had a little moment this morning with starting cold
took longer than usual, so i just tuned throttle 10-20% ten back to off position and away it went
happy if thats all i got to do
1st time it has ever done it
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The throttle flaps are controlled by motors. Does the flap really open or follow the throttle handle at 10-20% command without engine start?

i'm guessing the ECU will control air and make sure rpm (crank sensor) goes up to steady idle-speed after engine-startup properly then the start-up program will relinquish the flap controls to throttle handle command or to the rider.....................

if you may,before cranking the engine after ignition_key on, try "WOT" and slammin back the throttle handle, do you hear the flaps slamming close too within the throttle body?
 
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You guys had Ducs before??
They all sound as if the starter motor will give up any second and the throttle blipping is necessary on many models
 
fireman1251 said:
You guys had Ducs before??
They all sound as if the starter motor will give up any second and the throttle blipping is necessary on many models
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+1, That's how my 1198 was, I had to give her a little blip almost every time to get her to wake up. Which BTW made me look like the douche riders that blip their throttles at every opportunity (i.e. waiting at stop lights, starting the thing, right before shutting it off, at the gas station, etc, etc, etc), especially since I had a pretty loud slip-on.
 
Titaniumvalves said:
The throttle flaps are controlled by motors. Does the flap really open or follow the throttle handle at 10-20% command without engine start?

i'm guessing the ECU will control air and make sure rpm (crank sensor) goes up to steady idle-speed after engine-startup properly then the start-up program will relinquish the flap controls to throttle handle command or to the rider.....................

if you may,before cranking the engine after ignition_key on, try "WOT" and slammin back the throttle handle, do you hear the flaps slamming close too within the throttle body?
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tuning ignition on and moving handle does not move throttle bodies
i assume while you crank it over it must alow to move them

while cranking over i could tell it was not going to start, well it was taking longer than usual
i just moves throttle handle a small amount open then close, then away she went, felt if i just kept cranking it wasnt goint to go.
It really was no problem.
 
I have the same hard starting problem most times when re-starting the bike when parked just for 10mins after a ride. Took me at least 3 cranks before it fired up....Hope Ducati can address this issue...unless that is part of the idiosyncrasy of Ducati Ownership?

Miguel Bichara
1199 Panigale S w/ ABS
Manila, Philippines.
 
jjmontesanto said:
+1, That's how my 1198 was, I had to give her a little blip almost every time to get her to wake up. Which BTW made me look like the douche riders that blip their throttles at every opportunity (i.e. waiting at stop lights, starting the thing, right before shutting it off, at the gas station, etc, etc, etc), especially since I had a pretty loud slip-on.
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The air-cooled 2valves are the worst; the guy who bought my Hyper brought it back to the shop the next day saying the battery was weak and the starter sounded creaky:D:D
 

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