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TricoloreSF said:
Suck it up....and have a nice day.

I'm interested in this new map as well. Hopefully it addresses some of the power issues that AR uncovered as well. Dysert, when is this new mapping being released and what's your source? Can't drop nuggets like this and leave us hanging....

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Put my bike on the Dyno and tested it. Sent the information to Italy. My guys then had follow up phone callls with the top of the Ducati food chain. The problem acknowledged, solution in the works. My guys are the ones who prepped all the US press bikes for all the tests. When I returned with second degree burns it got their attention. Unlike all the other macho guys with their posts about heat, I got burned by riding the bike agreesively for 8-10 hours a day for 2 days over 600 miles. I'll bet not many "experts" posting on the topic have done that. People also confuse the issue with stop and go traffic. That is not the issue. It is about riding aggressively for several hours without stopping, basically 110 miles at a time because fuel runs out.

They have wrapped my pipes with heat tape and it has improved the situation for now. Other options being looked at with lower priority like a redesigned fairing.
 
dysert said:
Put my bike on the Dyno and tested it. Sent the information to Italy. My guys then had follow up phone callls with the top of the Ducati food chain. The problem acknowledged, solution in the works. My guys are the ones who prepped all the US press bikes for all the tests. When I returned with second degree burns it got their attention. Unlike all the other macho guys with their posts about heat, I got burned by riding the bike agreesively for 8-10 hours a day for 2 days over 600 miles. I'll bet not many "experts" posting on the topic have done that. People also confuse the issue with stop and go traffic. That is not the issue. It is about riding aggressively for several hours without stopping, basically 110 miles at a time because fuel runs out.

They have wrapped my pipes with heat tape and it has improved the situation for now. Other options being looked at with lower priority like a redesigned fairing.
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Not about "Macho" I'm the OP and I have no issue with heat, that's not to say you are not being burned. Perhaps their are variables such as inseam, thin or large legs etc. I just said reading some of these posts before I had the bike almost scared me away, and that would of been a mistake.

IMHO there will never be a fix.
 
gosh we're so lucky to have you!! ;)

I'll probably never ride "aggressively" for 8-10 hrs a day on this bike,in fact I know I won't, so the heat is no big deal, I ride it two-three hours at a time in 90-100 degree ambient temps and I've lived to tell the tale.




dysert said:
Put my bike on the Dyno and tested it. Sent the information to Italy. My guys then had follow up phone callls with the top of the Ducati food chain. The problem acknowledged, solution in the works. My guys are the ones who prepped all the US press bikes for all the tests. When I returned with second degree burns it got their attention. Unlike all the other macho guys with their posts about heat, I got burned by riding the bike agreesively for 8-10 hours a day for 2 days over 600 miles. I'll bet not many "experts" posting on the topic have done that. People also confuse the issue with stop and go traffic. That is not the issue. It is about riding aggressively for several hours without stopping, basically 110 miles at a time because fuel runs out.

They have wrapped my pipes with heat tape and it has improved the situation for now. Other options being looked at with lower priority like a redesigned fairing.
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Do any of you commute to & from office on this bike? Does the heat have such an affect that you must change into other clothes? Because it's a commute I wouldn't be in leathers, but casual/semi casual pants.

I'm on the west coast of Florida and it's low 80's in morning and mid/upper 90's in afternoon with minimum of 70% humidity.... So to say you can cook up some swamp-@ss on a bike is a huge understatement. :D

I'm not saying it would stop me from getting the Pani, but it might stop me from trading/selling my SF for it....
 
I was experiencing burns on my inner right calf.
My bike was just in for its 600 mile service and Kyle at Seacoast found that the exhaust test port plug was missing. Basically, I had exhaust exiting directly onto my leg from about 2 inches away.
In my case, the plug didn't fall out, it was never there. He had to remove the exhaust and re-tap the hole. Waaaay cooler now!
Anyway, pretty embarrassed that I never saw it but figured I'd throw it out there as a remote possibility for those still struggling with the heat.
 
southeastduc said:
Do any of you commute to & from office on this bike? Does the heat have such an affect that you must change into other clothes? Because it's a commute I wouldn't be in leathers, but casual/semi casual pants.

I'm on the west coast of Florida and it's low 80's in morning and mid/upper 90's in afternoon with minimum of 70% humidity.... So to say you can cook up some swamp-@ss on a bike is a huge understatement. :D

I'm not saying it would stop me from getting the Pani, but it might stop me from trading/selling my SF for it....
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I commute to office everyday which is like 10 miles from my home. I wear dress pants, after sometime feel a little bit is going on with the hear but never to the point that I cannot enjoy the ride. Here it is 90+ and a lot of humidity
 
After a 6 hour ride in Dianese Alien leather pants I had blisters on my R posterior thigh...still healing after a month. Rode hard for another 2 days...so I guess I "manned up." But...it's asinine to suggest 2nd degree burns are "overblown." It sounds like not all bikes are throwing the same heat.

I'm having my pipes sent to Jet-Hot.
 
I think heat is just something you have to deal with on all liter bikes today- you're stradling a superbike engine. I had minor burns on my knees from my zx-10r, and I had to yank my leg away from the clutch cover on the 1199 a few times on long rides. I was "pleasantly" surprised that the heat wasn't much worse, if any, than the kawi (I guess my butt just got used to it). These bikes aren't built for cruising, but it's still fun.

Has anyone put stick-on heat tape inside the rear heat shield? What did you use?
 
southeastduc said:
Do any of you commute to & from office on this bike? Does the heat have such an affect that you must change into other clothes? Because it's a commute I wouldn't be in leathers, but casual/semi casual pants.

I'm on the west coast of Florida and it's low 80's in morning and mid/upper 90's in afternoon with minimum of 70% humidity.... So to say you can cook up some swamp-@ss on a bike is a huge understatement. :D

I'm not saying it would stop me from getting the Pani, but it might stop me from trading/selling my SF for it....
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I commute to work on my rider jean (with hip and knee protector inserts). It is about 20 miles one way city ride in downtown Seoul, the weather here is similar to FL, 85F in the morning, 90's in the evening with 70-80% humidity. I tried to use the route with minimum stops so I can feel the wind. I think it is worth changing from SF to Panigale, or keep both!
 
OldTimer said:
I was experiencing burns on my inner right calf.
My bike was just in for its 600 mile service and Kyle at Seacoast found that the exhaust test port plug was missing. Basically, I had exhaust exiting directly onto my leg from about 2 inches away.
In my case, the plug didn't fall out, it was never there. He had to remove the exhaust and re-tap the hole. Waaaay cooler now!
Anyway, pretty embarrassed that I never saw it but figured I'd throw it out there as a remote possibility for those still struggling with the heat.
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Is this something you can see by just taking a look or does the exhaust have to be taking apart to see it?
 
pizzadude2010 said:
Is this something you can see by just taking a look or does the exhaust have to be taking apart to see it?
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It's easily seen while the exhaust is still on the bike.
It's located on the right side. Look at the black heat shield (covering the rear cylinder's exhaust pipe). You'll notice a hole in the shield. Look through that hole and you should see a "plug" in the exhaust pipe (basically a bolt with an allen head). In my case, there was just a hole - no plug.
I can't imagine this is at all common but it's a quick and easy thing to check.
If you have problems locating it I could post a picture later today.
 
I don't know about this heat issue?

Riding around today, temp around 38C (100F), with the bike running at 90C.

Tell you what, it felt like I was sitting on an engine :p
 
Dysert, sorry to hear you have 2nd degree burns, hope the blisters heal quickly.

I would note however that it sounds like your specific bike has unusual amounts of heat, or you have very very sensitive skin. I've read of people complain of heat and even some red skin or heat irritation, but not actual burns, not even first degree.

I ride every Friday for between 350 to 450 km (220/280 miles) speeds are fairly high, in between cigarette/water and petrol breaks It takes about 5 hours. The temperature here is about 47/48 C ( approx 120 Fahrenheit) and humidity also very high by the time I get home at 11 am. Occasionally I stay out a little longer and it gets hotter, sometimes it's hotter along the way. When I get a Saturday off(1-2 a month) I'll do the same run again.

I ride in jeans mostly(occasionally full leathers) never had a burn, had some heat irritation in the beginning after heavy traffic, stop lights once. I feel for you, and hope it heals quick but IMHO your experience doesn't sound typical.
 
If anything I'm being conservative, just incase you don't believe me, here is a pic of the temp last Saturday from my friends car.

Yes that would be 136.4 Fahrenheit. To be fair I wasn't riding at the time the pic was taken.
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So if anyone should be getting burns, higher ambient means higher engine temp, it should be me, and I'm not.
 
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I have full Jet-Hot coated termi's, plus I wear Dainese Norsorex pants along with Dainese Kevlar jeans and Shock Doctor compression shorts with cup. I also have applied Gold Foil to the underside of the Carbon Fiber Heat Shield. Guess what....after an hour riding this afternoon I had red blotches on the inside of the back of my thighs close to my ass. What a literal pain in the ass. My legs felt warm but okay for the ride but the freakin seat is hot. I also applied gold radiant heat foil to the underside of the stock seat. Still ridiculously hot. I still love the bike but this is silly heat.
 
NE Fla Commuting

I've only commuted a couple of days to/from work in the Jax area where our temps/humidity are very similar - 80's morning/90's later in the day. My route is 40 miles each way at highway/secondary road speeds ~ 1 hour. I wear a pair of Rev'it Airvent mesh trousers over my khaki work trousers and, frankly, it isn't bad at all. While I notice the heat, I've never even come close to getting a burn. At the weekend, I wear the same Airvent trousers with shorts underneath for longer rides and, again, no burning issues.

southeastduc said:
Do any of you commute to & from office on this bike? Does the heat have such an affect that you must change into other clothes? Because it's a commute I wouldn't be in leathers, but casual/semi casual pants.

I'm on the west coast of Florida and it's low 80's in morning and mid/upper 90's in afternoon with minimum of 70% humidity.... So to say you can cook up some swamp-@ss on a bike is a huge understatement. :D

I'm not saying it would stop me from getting the Pani, but it might stop me from trading/selling my SF for it....
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southeastduc said:
Do any of you commute to & from office on this bike? Does the heat have such an affect that you must change into other clothes? Because it's a commute I wouldn't be in leathers, but casual/semi casual pants.

I'm on the west coast of Florida and it's low 80's in morning and mid/upper 90's in afternoon with minimum of 70% humidity.... So to say you can cook up some swamp-@ss on a bike is a huge understatement. :D

I'm not saying it would stop me from getting the Pani, but it might stop me from trading/selling my SF for it....
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I commute daily. Very low speed, 30mph roads, only about 20 minutes or so. I wear jeans. Never been a problem. And honestly, while I feel the heat, it has never been in a painful way, jeans or mesh/leathers. I'm coming from an RSV4-R and it got pretty hot too, just not under the seat in particular. Only had it a few weeks. Longest ride was maybe a few hours in mountains, still not any significant problem. (now the jerkiness at low speeds comnpared to my very smooth RSV4 IS a problem to me, but a different matter)
 

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