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I cooked myself in jeans when I was riding 1199s during hot summer. With full gears, the heat was not an issue.
On V4s, I can feel some heat from my left but the full protection reduces the heat from the engine.
 
The solution is costly but simple, spring the $2500 for a Carbon Fiber rear subframe…you kill two birds with one stone, you lose 10 pounds or so off the bike, and solve 90% of the heat issue.

How big a deal was it to replace the subframe?
 
Taking the tank off is the biggest pain in the ass. Once you've done it, its an easy job, just time consuming. Take pictures of everything. There are a lot of zip ties used to connect the wiring harness to the subframe. Again, not hard, just a pain in the ass.
 
How big a deal was it to replace the subframe?

pretty easy, you just ride the bike to the shop, then take an Uber home, you come back in a few days and ride your lighter cooler bike home

If you want the subframe painted to match your bike drop it off at the local paint shop for a few days first. Though you don’t have to do that because it’s a gorgeous CF piece.

On a more serious note, it’s not a ‘hard’ job to do DIY, just time consuming and tedious, so if you have 6 to 8 hours if free time and a decent set of Allan wrenches it’s not hard.
 
I’m ready to try anything. I know the bike would give out some heat so I preemptively installed the full AKRA, heat shield kit, Samco coolant hose set, engine ice and it’s still waaaaay too hot. This morning I took my freshly delivered V4 out for its first real run. I headed straight up the North Georgia mountains, and was able to avoid any stop and go traffic yet I still managed to cook my calf. I can’t believe it. I rarely went under 70MPH and was wearing Dainese Drake pants. Holy ....! My V2 was nearly as hot. I need to figure this out or I’ll be posting it in the market place.
 
I’m ready to try anything. I know the bike would give out some heat so I preemptively installed the full AKRA, heat shield kit, Samco coolant hose set, engine ice and it’s still waaaaay too hot. This morning I took my freshly delivered V4 out for its first real run. I headed straight up the North Georgia mountains, and was able to avoid any stop and go traffic yet I still managed to cook my calf. I can’t believe it. I rarely went under 70MPH and was wearing Dainese Drake pants. Holy ....! My V2 was nearly as hot. I need to figure this out or I’ll be posting it in the market place.

Many people (including me) report an experience nearly identical to yours.

I’ve owned several sport bikes over the years, and none (not even a turbo gsxr 1000) put out anywhere near as much heat as my v2 and v4 Ducatis. It’s crazy. I found the v4 so unpleasant in traffic in central Texas summer heat that I decided I just wouldn’t ride it anywhere but the track.
 
I think part of the problem is where the fairings vent and where the heat sinks are in the engine.

Its not hot under my ass anymore with the CF subframe but that left calf area means no casual rides without leathers.

here’s what I’m doing, Engine ice in a fan cooled H20 radiator, and that CF subframe, no need for heat shielding under the seat with the subframe

I’m gunna see if I can pin down exactly where how and why that left calf area gets so hot…it might be as simple as finding a way to make some kind of un-obtrusive little cowl that deflects the heat behind the calf…if so I’m gunna make about 20,000 three dollar parts and sell them all to you for $99.99 hahaha

What might be really funny is that I’m ordering the H20 that allows for fans, and I suspect it’s the fan that’s blowing hot air from the radiator over the engine and through an opening in the fairing right above the left ankle, and by using the fan I might be keeping the heat there, not helping it lol
 
@Steven31371 Do you have one of the wide bodied Panigales or one of the narrow ones? Between my Panigale V4S and my old Streetfighter V4, I wonder if the wider fairing is limiting the amount of air which reaches that area leading to more heat. I also wonder if some type of heat shield installed on the exposed portion of the exhaust manifold near the left rearset would help.
 
@Steven31371 Do you have one of the wide bodied Panigales or one of the narrow ones? Between my Panigale V4S and my old Streetfighter V4, I wonder if the wider fairing is limiting the amount of air which reaches that area leading to more heat. I also wonder if some type of heat shield installed on the exposed portion of the exhaust manifold near the left rearset would help.

mine is a narrow body, it’s a 2020 on the books but the 916 Anniversario uses the 2019 fairings. Seems both types of fairings have the left shin heat problem.

my bike is at the shop but when it gets home I’ll take a closer look
 
I just don't remember it being that much of a problem on the Streetfighter V4. I didn't have the rear cylinder engine covers on that bike. It had a full Akra exhaust, but my Panigale has the Termi slip-on, so both don't have cats.
 
The argument that the bike is a “rocket”, it’s going to be hot is a bit silly. The bike isn’t any faster or more capable than the rest of the current offerings. You wanted a Ducati, you got one. I surmise that there is a fair amount of psychological conditioning going on for the guys in hot climates in stop and go driving that somehow compensates for the design issues.

I guarantee you when they built the thing the engineers said “yea, it’s ....... hot, you would have to be sadist to ride this with any regularity” and the sales dept said, perfect, we’ll sell a shitload of them, it’s a Ducati.
 
I just don't remember it being that much of a problem on the Streetfighter V4. I didn't have the rear cylinder engine covers on that bike. It had a full Akra exhaust, but my Panigale has the Termi slip-on, so both don't have cats.

yeah my SFV4S didn’t have that left ankle heat, was hot under the seat but not to the point I couldn’t ride it without leathers
 
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The argument that the bike is a “rocket”, it’s going to be hot is a bit silly. The bike isn’t any faster or more capable than the rest of the current offerings. You wanted a Ducati, you got one. I surmise that there is a fair amount of psychological conditioning going on for the guys in hot climates in stop and go driving that somehow compensates for the design issues.

I guarantee you when they built the thing the engineers said “yea, it’s ....... hot, you would have to be sadist to ride this with any regularity” and the sales dept said, perfect, we’ll sell a shitload of them, it’s a Ducati.

haha, Ducati IS the Ferrari of bikes lol…or like an old school lambo before Ze Germans took over.
 
The argument that the bike is a “rocket”, it’s going to be hot is a bit silly. The bike isn’t any faster or more capable than the rest of the current offerings. You wanted a Ducati, you got one. I surmise that there is a fair amount of psychological conditioning going on for the guys in hot climates in stop and go driving that somehow compensates for the design issues.

I guarantee you when they built the thing the engineers said “yea, it’s ....... hot, you would have to be sadist to ride this with any regularity” and the sales dept said, perfect, we’ll sell a shitload of them, it’s a Ducati.
Yes the argument is absurd and I’ve heard it from so many people, even dealers. It’s laughable. A bike idling isn’t exactly producing power to warrant the heat.

Fanboys say it’s part of Ducati “character”, which is a clever way to disguise design flaws
 
I have to agree with the overall sentiment on this bike. It is very, very, very hot to ride. TBH, I knew what I was getting in for as I had an 1199 for 4 or 5 years that I finally sold to take a break from the heat (couldn't take another Florida summer on it). Overall, I loved that bike (other than the heat). I then rode a Factory Tuono for 4 or 5 years and was hell-bent on replacing with the new Factory Tuono but couldn't resist this beautiful V4.

I do love how planted the bike feels and the absolutely absurd power and supermodel looks. But damn do you pay a price as the heat is insane. This is literally the hottest bike I have ever ridden. I ride in jeans, which make the heat bearable, but I don't see myself riding sans-leathers in the Florida main summer months of July - late September. But again, I knew this going in, so won't complain too much. This is also the fastest bike I've ever owned.

All bearable as this bike brings a smile every time I see her sitting in the garage ready for a ride.
 

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