Help With Abomination. V4 Engine Build Info

commodorepdog · Aug 16, 2019

Help With Abomination. V4R Engine Build Info

Hey Forum Members,

I am hoping some of you could have some advise as I have not one clue about Ducati and their products. A lot of you are wondering why the title of the post. Well because I am currently exploring using the new Ducati Panigale V4R engine in my racecar..... I know a little crazy right. Their are a few things I am hoping the collection of you all can help me to understand:

1: In Stock (Delivered from the factory) trim what power have you seen gained off of performance modifications? If so what are they and where can they be sourced?

2: Does anyone know of good engine builders of Race application only ducati motors that would be willing to entertain my phone call?

3: Does anyone have the rough dimensions of a V4 engine package so I can start evaluating the complications of fitting it in my engine compartment.

4: References for online parts (from ducati)

5: References for aftermarket parts (Engine Performance)

Here is a few links to racing videos. Both Races from the SCCA national runoffs at sonoma raceway. currently we are running 05-06 GSXR 1000

My Nose Camera:
[youtube]B8z6UVwIkDs[/youtube]

Prototype 1 Race Broadcast:
https://www.scca.com/videos/2035597

Thanks for your time.

Best,
Perry

nealeo · Aug 16, 2019

try giving mark sutton a call at the duc shop in marietta ga 770-858-0074

RODOLFO · Aug 17, 2019

If there is a 1000cc limit

I would go with a bmw s1000rr engine

It would be so much cheaper

And move up to a class that is faster

You passed the whole grid in half a lap

Keith197 · Aug 17, 2019

Engines are more software limited now days than anything else, would be much easier dealing with other manufactures software than the apple of motorcycles.

commodorepdog · Aug 17, 2019

RODO,

We are limited to a couple of engine sizes. But with bigger engines you get hit with both weight and Intake restrictions. With the 1000cc mark we can weight min of 1000lbs and be unrestricted on Intake.

I agree bmw makes a great engine. I am interested in the advantages the V4 would provide aerodynamically as well as we could narrow down the bodywork as it should be a narrower engine package altogether. Also the demonic valves of Ducati have always drawn me to the brand allows to reach for the moon as far as RPM

Also this is the fastest class (right now) in SCCA club racing. Not to much faster.....

Keith,

We run complete stand alone systems and I am probably converting to a Motec ECUs this off season software should not be the issue holding me back.

oldmansan · Aug 18, 2019

commodorepdog said:
RODO,

We are limited to a couple of engine sizes. But with bigger engines you get hit with both weight and Intake restrictions. With the 1000cc mark we can weight min of 1000lbs and be unrestricted on Intake.

I agree bmw makes a great engine. I am interested in the advantages the V4 would provide aerodynamically as well as we could narrow down the bodywork as it should be a narrower engine package altogether. Also the demonic valves of Ducati have always drawn me to the brand allows to reach for the moon as far as RPM

Also this is the fastest class (right now) in SCCA club racing. Not to much faster.....

Keith,

We run complete stand alone systems and I am probably converting to a Motec ECUs this off season software should not be the issue holding me back.

You should make it clear you're talking about the V4R motor, as you stated, but then stated V4, which makes people think you're referencing the 1103cc motor (which is why people are questioning the displacement limitation of your class).

To take full advantage of the V4R motor you need the Akra exhaust/tune. Even then it doesn't come alive until the higher rpms. You miss out on a lot of torque everywhere, so are you sure that's what you want?

Quite a pricey motor/exhaust combination, and for your application I'm not sure the extra rpms are worth it unless you're constantly at the top of the powerband nearly all the time.

The new BMW S1000RR motor with a tune to eliminate the EPA restrictions would give great torque everywhere. You wouldn't get the extra 2K rpm up top, but your hp curve would be more consistent without the need to keep the rpms in the stratosphere.

You should also consider the cost of maintaining/rebuilding the V4R motor. Very pricey internals and it probably needs a refresh a lot more often than normal motors.

San

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