How do YOU break in a new bike?

DucatiKev said:

R u an engineer by chance?

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Well on the IT side, certainly not an engineer in the traditional sense like a Mechanical, Electrical, etc., but an IT Systems Engineer. I just approach things very analytically.

smoothgangsta said:

Cool, thanks for the info, I am gonna start letting her lose then. I already have 190 miles on it, it's painful to not

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just remember to set DTC and DWC to level 1 cause on these newer bikes even in race mode, full throttle is more restricted the higher in value the electronic helpers are set

smoothgangsta said:

Well on the IT side, certainly not an engineer in the traditional sense like a Mechanical, Electrical, etc., but an IT Systems Engineer. I just approach things very analytically.

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Engineers are the practical thinkers, that’s y I ask. Need to see numbers and charts... not just headlines and ppls opinions

DucatiKev said:

just remember to set DTC and DWC to level 1 cause on these newer bikes even in race mode, full throttle is more restricted the higher in value the electronic helpers are set

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Understood, thanks!

smoothgangsta said:

Understood, thanks!

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Haha and hold on tight, squeeze the tank with ur legs or it’ll fly out from under u

Let her rip imo.

Rogue said:

Let her rip imo.

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I’d love your honest opinion on my most recent post in this thread:

I would never modify the air/fuel flow without a tune. Regardless of what the exhaust manufacturer said. You’re going to end up with a better end product with a tune anyway, so why forego it?

Just in the meantime till tuning options are available. Definitely will get her dialed in when the time comes

wondering if u think a bike with factory tune could make more power as their Dyno chart shows just with slipon installed

DucatiKev said:

Standard procedure. You wouldn’t believe what they do to mclarens and Ferrari’s right off the truck.

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Do you spend time thinking up this garbage or does it spew forth freely?

First, besides the inside pre-road test procedures, Ferrari has a specific run in protocol on a specific loop at the factory that’s over 50 miles. They also have a separate building to fix and address various issues that pop up at run-in. Then, when they cars are delivered, the pdi process is fairly specific and these days, the factory gets all the diagnostic info from the PDI process. There’s no “you wouldn’t believe what they do to these right off the truck,” fantasy that you’re putting out there.

You don’t know what I do for a living but trust me when I tell you that this isn’t hearsay or something that I learned from some tv show or anything else. This is first hand info from my own work meetings in Maranello and other facilities.

DucatiKev said:

the Superleggera gets a new engine or rebuild ever 3,000 miles or so. U think there’s a 600 miles break in period where they need to be babied? I certainly would not be paying those prices for a bike that needs to be babied ever few thousand miles. But I wouldn’t buy one anyway

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Secondly, where do you get the ........ that a Superleggera has to be rebuilt every three thousand miles? I am approaching three thousand miles on mine now and it’s perfect. In fact, it was just run on the dyno a couple of months ago and it produces 2hp more than it did when it was on the dyno at 800 miles. And I‘ve ridden that bike at the track so while it's been extraordinarily well taken care of, it hasn't been babied.

There are a million reasons not to buy a Superleggera but an engine rebuild every 3,000 miles isn't one of them.

You keep spouting off with ........ you know nothing about and at some point, someone is going to be dumb enough to think you know what you’re talking about. And that’s how bad information spreads.

There’s a ton of stuff that I don’t know about these newer Ducatis and I come here to learn about them. I came here initially because the info was highly regarded and mostly accurate. But it has gotten decidedly less accurate as of late. When I see someone spouting off information as factual that I personally know is wrong, its a problem for me.

Whats the point of having an Internet forum as a resource if it doesn’t have accurate and reliable information? If people come on here and just make .... up as they see fit, how would you ever know what to believe and what to discard? This is how misinformation spreads and this is exactly what takes a forum like this one from a respected source of information to an unreliable ........ machine that people stay away from.

Lol. He's gotta get his post count up somehow besides starting so many threads and promoting a forum vendor as if he's sponsored by that vendor.

Sorry guys I forgot to turn my chat bot off

Sherpa23 said:

where do you get the ........ that a Superleggera has to be rebuilt every three thousand miles?

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Maybe I confused the 2. There doesn’t seem to be any info available on the SLV4

what’s your profession, F1?

do u agree these engines are ready to race by the time they are in the hands of the consumer?

Hit your curviest, best road as much as possible, as hard as possible. For break in I have been doing the Sandia Crest Byway as often as I can. I haven't minded the 6k limit (exceeded occasionally) since it is giving me time to get used to the bike before I hit the big power.

smoothgangsta said:

Well on the IT side, certainly not an engineer in the traditional sense like a Mechanical, Electrical, etc., but an IT Systems Engineer. I just approach things very analytically.

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@smoothgangsta IT..what discipline?
VP of IT but disciplined in storage, server engineering, mid level networking

Break in isn’t just for the motor. Trans, clutch, all rotating parts, tires etc.

My biggest break in item is the tires. I went pretty easy on the bike until the tires had 100 miles on them and were scrubbed in. By then I had a few heat cycles on the bike. Just hit 200 miles and now it’s time to turn her loose.

FWIW I’ve broken in quite a few airplane engines, my last airplane had a custom built motor, and it was broke in by running it wide open (leaned to just rich of peak EGT) as close to sea level as possible for 10 hours. Dumped the oil, ran it above 80% for 25 hours, dumped the oil.... turned her loose. Ran like a kitten, oil analysis always clean, then the new owner f’d with the timing and smoked a cylinder.

DucatiKev said:

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Maybe I confused the 2. There doesn’t seem to be any info available on the SLV4

what’s your profession, F1?

do u agree these engines are ready to race by the time they are in the hands of the consumer?

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I have no idea what a BMW made for the track only has anything to do with a Ducati street bike but whatever. Any Ducati RS bike has the same limitations. Again, I don't know what any of that has to do with a bike homologated for street use.

As to your question, let me ask you this: when is the last time you went to the dealership and bought an engine and rode it out of the dealership?

I'll answer for you so that I don't get a response that has a quote about airplanes or boats or something - you don't. You don't ride an engine. You buy and ride an entire motorcycle with thousands of moving parts. All those parts have to mate together in the right way so that there's no damage, catastrophic or otherwise. Some of them take a number of miles, some take RPM, some take heat cycles, some take a combination of all three.

Should you buy a car or motorbike from dealer and go out and rip it around the track for a couple of days? Well, everyone can make their own decisions. However, all choices whether it be ignoring break-in procedures, whether to attempt to run away from the cops, or not maintaining your motorcycle, have consequences. Sometimes you dodge a bullet and sometimes you don't. But usually the best procedure is to ignore the bullets altogether.

Yes, they do a pretty good job of building bikes and cars these days but I have personally seen some bad stuff on occasion. Had break-in procedures been ignored, it would have ended very badly. And I also know of a PDI where had the tech done what you're saying they do, the car would have been catastrophically damaged and the tech fired on the spot (and probably banned from the dealer network).

Sherpa23 said:

I have no idea what a BMW made for the track only has anything to do with a Ducati street bike but whatever. Any Ducati RS bike has the same limitations. Again, I don't know what any of that has to do with a bike homologated for street use.

As to your question, let me ask you this: when is the last time you went to the dealership and bought an engine and rode it out of the dealership?

I'll answer for you so that I don't get a response that has a quote about airplanes or boats or something - you don't. You don't ride an engine. You buy and ride an entire motorcycle with thousands of moving parts. All those parts have to mate together in the right way so that there's no damage, catastrophic or otherwise. Some of them take a number of miles, some take RPM, some take heat cycles, some take a combination of all three.

Should you buy a car or motorbike from dealer and go out and rip it around the track for a couple of days? Well, everyone can make their own decisions. However, all choices whether it be ignoring break-in procedures, whether to attempt to run away from the cops, or not maintaining your motorcycle, have consequences. Sometimes you dodge a bullet and sometimes you don't. But usually the best procedure is to ignore the bullets altogether.

Yes, they do a pretty good job of building bikes and cars these days but I have personally seen some bad stuff on occasion. Had break-in procedures been ignored, it would have ended very badly. And I also know of a PDI where had the tech done what you're saying they do, the car would have been catastrophically damaged and the tech fired on the spot (and probably banned from the dealer network).

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r u a bully in real life too or just when behind the keyboard?

DucatiKev said:

r u a bully in real life too or just when behind the keyboard?

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When did stating facts and relaying first hand knowledge instead of simply making up things become "bullying."

The only point I'm making here is that stating BS and innuendo aren't becoming on this forum. It ruins it. This place is great and it's a place to love but it's only a great place because it has good, reliable information.

You've been here for several months. You average almost 10 posts a day. Most of it is gibberish and just talk. Unlike most, I have no issue with that. A little social interaction is good and you're just a kid having fun. Where I have an issue is when you start spewing incorrect stuff as fact. At some point, someone is going to think you know what you're talking about and accept it.

When someone is clearly stating things that are wrong, it's difficult for anyone who knows the facts to sit by silently. It's okay to be wrong and it's totally okay to not know the answer. It's just not okay to perpetuate incorrect information and put it out there as fact. Eventually it becomes urban legend and is accepted as truth. And why would anyone read through a forum if you have to really spend a ton of time to separate fact from fiction.

Sherpa23 said:

When did stating facts and relaying first hand knowledge instead of simply making up things become "bullying."

The only point I'm making here is that stating BS and innuendo aren't becoming on this forum. It ruins it. This place is great and it's a place to love but it's only a great place because it has good, reliable information.

You've been here for several months. You average almost 10 posts a day. Most of it is gibberish and just talk. Unlike most, I have no issue with that. A little social interaction is good and you're just a kid having fun. Where I have an issue is when you start spewing incorrect stuff as fact. At some point, someone is going to think you know what you're talking about and accept it.

When someone is clearly stating things that are wrong, it's difficult for anyone who knows the facts to sit by silently. It's okay to be wrong and it's totally okay to not know the answer. It's just not okay to perpetuate incorrect information and put it out there as fact. Eventually it becomes urban legend and is accepted as truth. And why would anyone read through a forum if you have to really spend a ton of time to separate fact from fiction.

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You need an attitude adjustment