Is the MWR filter worth it?

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Is the MWR filter worth it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 60.6%

  • No

    Votes: 26 39.4%
  • Total voters
    66
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I know there are various reviews of the MWR filter here and there on this forum, but I'd just like to get an idea of if the majority of the buyers are happy with the purchase. Think it was worth the money for the change in intake sound? Notice any added power (independant dyno results would help)?

I'd like to make an informed decision before I buy one, and their website makes some fairly outlandish claims on hp increase considering I'm sure Ducati did a good amount of airflow optimization on their own...
 
The sound was definitely different...and personal opinion it was improved. I like the idea of re-useable/washable filters so that was a plus for me as well. The 'equalization of pressure' sounds interesting but I don't know if that is marketing or reality.

More power...who knows? I haven't seen the before and after dynos and did not do one myself. My 1199r is insanely fast and more than I can handle regardless of that modification....or any for that matter. The MWR looks really cool though, even if it is hidden during use.
 
hsharpag91 said:
The sound was definitely different...and personal opinion it was improved. I like the idea of re-useable/washable filters so that was a plus for me as well. The 'equalization of pressure' sounds interesting but I don't know if that is marketing or reality.

More power...who knows? I haven't seen the before and after dynos and did not do one myself. My 1199r is insanely fast and more than I can handle regardless of that modification....or any for that matter. The MWR looks really cool though, even if it is hidden during use.
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that counts as a no...
 
pedrin said:
that counts as a no...
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haha, yeah, i kinda read that the same way. That description makes it sounds more like a nice-to-have in the same boat as carbon fiber cosmetic parts that if you have some money laying around, it's cool to blow it on new bike parts, but not a major difference. Not in the same catagory as the 41T sprocket kit that really makes a noticible difference and only costs slightly more than the MWR.
 
I guess you could look at it that way....as a no

I always put re-useable filters in my vehicles but you cannot usually 'hear' a difference...so that was a bonus for me. If you have a lot of track time planned I'm sure it is worth it but I will be waiting a couple of years (till its paid off) to track mine.

Buying a beater for that abuse in the meantime.
 
Engines are just air pumps. The more air you can suck in, the more you can squish and the more it goes bang. If this filter flows better than stock (it probably does), it'll make more power. For $159 it's cheap HP compared to, say, 4k you'd spend on a full exhaust. However, unlike an exhaust, free flowing intake sometimes means that particles will get through to a very expensive engine, damaging valves and seats. I might error on the side of less flow/more protection when it comes to reliability, longevity and long-term power (you can run no filter if you want power, but race teams find that during just one race your bike can lose 10hp just from the dirt that enters the engine during the race).

And...I hate reusable filters that require oil. They're messy and gunk up intake boxes and the solvents you use to clean them are probably not good to flush into the city sewer. Additionally, a high mileage foam air filter looks dirty no matter how much you wash it, leading me to believe you never really can get 'em totally clean. And then there's always the question of--did I spray on too much or too little oil?
 
As with most things in the 'not necessary' category....personal preference comes into play.
 
You guys really don't know jack about this filter...

Which is my fault, I'm supposed to get the word out, clearly I have failed.

Give me a couple minutes to find all the data on this bike, and I'll be back.
 
Ohh and while I sort through old emails to find the info on the Panigale, consider this:

The owner of North Ohio Ducati didn't believe us, ordered one, put it in his 1199, and boom - 6 HP gain at the wheel on the dyno.

The Midwest Ducati regional service manager then did the same thing with the same results.

;)
 
BellissiMoto said:
Ohh and while I sort through old emails to find the info on the Panigale, consider this:

The owner of North Ohio Ducati didn't believe us, ordered one, put it in his 1199, and boom - 6 HP gain at the wheel on the dyno.

The Midwest Ducati regional service manager then did the same thing with the same results.

;)
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I assume you mean Carl? I bought my bike from him, I'll have to ask for his review :)
 
I'm with the others; I don't care about the change in intake noise, nor the power that it supposedly develops. To answer the question, it's more hassle than its worth to me.

How does it alter or affect the air:fuel ratio?
 
Stw said:
It doesn't...The ECM takes care of that....
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Thank you. To what degree? Does the "ECM" also adjust for aftermarket exhaust kits (and associated change in the a/f ratio) that require the removal of the catalytic converter? What about slip on kits?

Thanks in advance,
 
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Okay, nothing easy to copy and paste here, as it is roughly translated, but the Ducati Panigale has a serious issue with power differential between cylinders.

It's because the airbox has very low pressure compared to the size of the engine, and the air naturally flows into the vertical cylinder throttle body easier than the horizontal.

An 8.5-10% difference from vertical to horizontal power output.

This is BAD. This causes a couple problems; cracking engine cases (I know a customer who had 3 engines fail in 2400 miles)), and

MWR High Efficiency and Racing Air Filters for the Panigale dramatically increase airbox pressure, by changing the flow dynamics, which reduces the power differential by approximately 4-5%, and with the new adjustment kit (details soon to come), you can realize another 1-3 HP, and another 2-3% drop in power differential.

MWR has also just developed a larger intake snorkel, but it can only be used with track/race fairing stay.

Dyno figures on it will come soon.
 
BellissiMoto said:
This is BAD. This causes a couple problems; cracking engine cases (I know a customer who had 3 engines fail in 2400 miles)),
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Hmmm...One guy has had 3 engines failures??? Something seems wrong with this scenario....
never heard of anyone having more than one....and that's rare..
 
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