Is the MWR filter worth it?

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Is the MWR filter worth it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 60.6%
  • No

    Votes: 26 39.4%

  • Total voters
    66
Installing an mwr race and tracking it Sunday.

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MWR DYNO numbers

I didnt dyno the filter by its self,but with a full termi ,reflash ,PC5, MWR and custom tune,my bike made 185hp and 93 ft lbs toque . This dyno reads a little low in my area ,and its an 80k dyna jet dyno.
 
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I know this isn't the mwr but this is bellissimoto and Ducati Austin. The MWR is in and ready to rock with this new rear end.
 
Did it myself this morning and it took about an hour all told. Note: Watch the wire clip on the injectors, and note how it fits as between the two injectors, it is bound to fall off at least one - it did on both of mine. You will have to reinstall it via Braille as you cannot see it, but it is no big deal, just feel for the posts it clips over and you will be fine. No problems, started right up, and idles fine. Haven't taken it out yet for a spin, so it will be interesting to see how it runs with the TuneBoy 0205 program, the MWR filter (with accessory plate kit which by the way, is nothing more than 4 small bolts, 4 springs, and 4 locknuts, costing $44) plus the Termi slip-ons. May switch the ECU over to Wayne's version of the full Termi ECU program if it feels lean. I'll let you all know.

Update: took it out for a 10 mile run through traffic, and up the freeway. Seems to idle a bit smoother, maybe, and "pops" when shifting a bit less (does that mean it is a little less rich than before the MWR filter?), and on the freeway with light throttle, maybe a bit smoother, but nothing that smacks me upside the head and says "who added a bunch of power here". Does not appear to want to wheelie any more than before, but doesn't run any worse either. All part of the package of airfilter, ECU, and Termi exhaust, to prepare for a proper dyno tuning, so we shall see.
 
Just installed one on my bike... Feels like it pulls much stronger... Ducati should have done this from the beginning... Highly recommend this for all 1199 owners...
 
Sorry to dig up an old and for some "painful" thread...I just had the he version installed while an oil leak was being fixed (required removal and opening of the engine). On the way home from the dealer this afternoon the bike ran fine for 30 miles. Then all of a sudden, the bike lost all power and chugged as if it were running out of gas. It then stalled and the red engine! indicator and yellow engine light appeared on the dash. I let it sit for 1 minute then attempted to restart with the same result. I let it sit for 10 minutes, then the bike fired up just fine. I rode it back to the dealer and they said they are going to try to replicat the problem tomorrow. Could this be due to the tps being reset and the bike having to "relearn" too much at once with a new filter? Filter Purchased from bellissimoto :)

Thoughts?
 
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Sorry to hear Dan. Brandon, the previous lead Ducati tech at Ducati Daytona, installed my MWR HE filter back in May of last year. I haven't had any problems since day one. I'm sure Huel will sort you out but damn that is annoying, especially after just getting your bike back.
 
I had the MWR HE installed at first service and all good for the last couple of thousand miles. Doubt it's a filter related issue you're experiencing. Be interested to know the outcome.
 
This is getting crazy. I am emailing Ducati USA today. I am strongly considering hiring a lawyer for florida lemon law. My dealer is GREAT...I have just never had this many issues with a bike before.
 
Sorry this is so much data guys... I haven't had a chance to really clean up the grammar from the translation, or simplify it yet, but here goes...

INTRODUCTION
ADJUSTMENT KIT MWR-500


With the "Full Race Airfilter" we developed a product what
achieved and proven to be unbeatable.

Now it time to increase the gap with the competition.
With ALL current sportsfilters (also the std. MWR performance filter) we have seen optical and on data the fuel from the upper injectors will blown away due to the force of the incoming air. Open up a airbox afther a race , the inside of the airbox it is fully wet from the fuel blowing away.

With introducing the "HE" & "R" filter it came clear that not only all four cylinders get the same amount of air but also the fuelflow of the upper injectors was better so the effect increased.

Not only the airflow is important also the flow of the fuel from the upper injectors is important . The better we "guide" the incoming air the bigger the effect of the upper injectors the more topspeed.

Afther a long time period of testing with our top teams we found out that a adjustable plate could increase the effect of the upper injectors even more , infact so much that topspeed gains of 4-5 Km/h are possible.

By lifting the plate at the front the incoming is forced to go all the way up to the top of the airbox and falls down together with the fuel of the upper injectors and almost no fuel is blowing away. This effect will be optimized by lower the rear of the plate . Optical this can be seen by open the airbox afther a race , the airbox is almost dry on the inside.

Fuel adjustments are necessary , but these adjustments can go both ways , richer or leaner , this all depents of the construction of the airbox : the position of the airfilter - the space between upper injectors & stacks and variable stacks or not . Follow the instructions of the lambda numbers and the power will come.

Quote from MAHI RACING TEAM INDIA (Kawasaki Factory Racing WSS 600) : "We had the filters tested by Akira Technologies and they told us to go ahead and fit them as there was a considerable improvement from the standard racefilter".

There is one exeption to the rule , the use of the adjustment kit for the 1199 Panigale High Efficient & Full Race filter.

The 1199 has a difference in fuelling between front & rear cylinder from about 9/10% .With the "HE" filter and "R" filter we could drop this difference with 6%.By using the adjustment kit you can open up the top of the plate and "guide" more air to the rear cylinder . By doing this the engine is even more in balance and the engine comes alive . Fuel adjustments are necessary , fuel adjustments of each cylinder separate are necessary . With the std. ECU & Corse ECU this is not possible . Therefore we advise to use a fueldevise what makes this option possible .

One of the biggest motorcyclemagazines of the UK Fast Bikes will do a independed filtertest on the 1199 Panigale . They will test the "HE" filter and the test the "HE" with the adjustmentkit MWR-500.

On the dyno you will see just a little of the increase of the performance , how higher the speed , how better the adjustable plate works . You can say that the plate works like a spoiler.

Dyno's with airspeed simulation go to a maximum speed of 150/160 Kmh , the effect of this modification will work on much higher speed.

Using the Adustmentkit MWR-500 to the "HE" filters brings for the costumers a handy extra . Costumers can ride the bike on full power but when they go to a trackday on a circuit with strikt noiseregulations they can drop the plate to the minimum hight ( 9mm) . Drop the plate to the minimum hight reduces the inletnoise with about 2/3 db (depending the modell of the bike) . The performance of the bike will be in this case at the same level as the std. paper airfilter.

The Adjustmentkit MWR-500 includes 4x springs , 4x bolts and 4x locknuts
FULL RACE FILTER SETTINGS ADJUSTABLE PLATE
Below you find the advised basic settings for the Full Race filters . Afther these basic settings costumers can optimize the performance to their own preference. By changing the hight on the rear side you can change the character of the engine. We advise to adjust the rear of the plate not more as 2mm at the same time.
Basic settings :
For all full racefilters
Front : 26mm
Rear : 12 mm
EXEPT :
MC-110-10R : Top - 16mm / bottom - 12mm (measured from the foam)
MC-022-12R : Top - 26mm / bottom - 15mm
MC-061-12R : Front - 23mm / rear - 11
MC-080-13R : Top - 26mm / bottom - 15mm
MC-090-09R : Top - 26mm / rear - 15mm

HIGH EFFICIENT FILTERS ADJUSTABLE PLATE
It is quite hard to find the right settings for the High Efficient Filters because the plates are bigger . Most of the models have limited hight space because of the contruction of the airbox or the airsensor plays a part for the limited hight .

We advise to take the toplid of the airbox , put it up-side-down ,place the filter up-side-down on his place and measure the distance between plate and airbox or airsensor , go from there to make the right hight , as high as possible by not hit the airbox or airsensor.

Note: We advise not to use the MWR-500 kit on these filter models : MC-110-05HE / MC-010-09HE /MC-050-08HE / MC-100-09HE & MC-110-10HE because it's useless .
For costumers with the MC-010-09HE & MC-110-10HE we can offer to buy the "R" plate for more performance.
We can advise the setting of a few models :
MC-010-04HE : Front - 21mm / Rear - 17mm
MC-120-10HE : Front - 26mm / Rear - 12mm
MC-022-12HE : Top - 26mm / bottom - 15mm
MC-040-05HE : Top - 22mm / bottom - 12mm
MC-040-11HE : Front - 27mm / rear - 12mm
MC-060-10HE : Front - 26mm / rear - 12mm
MC-061-12HE : Front - 23mm / rear - 11mm
MC-080-13HE : Front - 26mm / rear - 15mm
MC-090-99HE : Front -12mm / rear - 26mm
MC-090-04HE : Front - 26mm / rear - 26mm
MC-090-07HE : Front - 26mm / rear - 12mm
MC-090-09HE : Front - 26mm / rear - 15mm

This thing looks like a disaster waiting to happen, with the way these engines buz and those small bits in the air box just waiting to be ingested into the engine. Fuel standoff at the intake entry on any engine is a product of valve overlap, before race bikes and cars used airfilters it was very noticeable, at "idle" or low engine speeds, disappearing as rpms increased and the engine came "on the cam" variable valve timing "fix's" this to a degree. These 1199's have a pretty aggressive cam profile, and timing so the fuel standoff would be considerable and normal at low engine speeds.
 

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