Is the MWR filter worth it?

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Is the MWR filter worth it?

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 60.6%

  • No

    Votes: 26 39.4%
  • Total voters
    66
For the money, and only if the filter doesn't require fueling help beyond that of the bike's employed ECU (stock, Termi, etc.,), the MWR HE filter would seem like a worthwhile mod. Yes, I've changed my mind, but it does ultimately depend on the fueling.

Thanks Bellissimoto! ;)
 
I tend to agree with Randy,

please don't take everything Ducati says for granted. Or start from the premesis that they know best or will do what is the absolute best for the bike or their customer. Corporate interest are so huge that some relationships are undebatable. Which in many cases leads to a good thing. But also a thing that can be improved upon. With sometimes simple things. Such as an air filter..

i like the way Wilco sort of has stumbled on the the results it gives.. stumbling onto something is the way most of all discoveries have been made.. seeing it first and then having to analyse as to why and how... :) He did a great job with that!

Also take into account that even when not delivering 1 bhp more, the effect on riding can be huge. As dyno's only pull the full throttle result. But how it gets there and how it reacts on going to full throttle can make all the difference... that needs a 3D dyno to show on a graph...

but again, the seat of you pant may be all the dyno you need.. stick it in and ride it... no big deal.. not even het price of a rear tire..
 
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kope999R said:
I tend to agree with Randy,

please don't take everything Ducati says for granted. Or start from the premesis that they know best or will do what is the absolute best for the bike or their customer. Corporate interest are so huge that some realtionships are undebatable. Which in many cases leads to a good thing. But also a thing that can be improved upon. With sometimes simple things. Such as an air filter..

i like the way Wilco sort of has stumbled on the the results it gives.. stumbling onto something is the way most of all discoveries have been made.. seeing it first and then having to analyse as to why and how... :) He did a great job with that!

Also take into account that even when not delivering 1 bhp more, the effect on riding can be huge. As dyno's only pull the full throttle result. But how it gets there and how it reacts on going to full throttle can make all the difference... that needs a 3D dyno to show on a graph...

but again, the seat of you pant may be all the dyno you need.. stick it in and ride it... no big deal.. not even het price of a rear tire..
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I disagree . I would not recommend just sticking in a high flow air filter and just riding it could be a big deal if the bike is running too lean as a result .
The effects on riding is called the Placebo effect in many cases .
 
+1 to wilkson. For those of us tracking the bike and getting those high rpm high air flow +120mph speeds a better flowing filter can REALLY change a tunes afr. I'd at least want to see a dyno charted afr before taking it out and running it.
 
gatti man said:
+1 to wilkson. For those of us tracking the bike and getting those high rpm high air flow +120mph speeds a better flowing filter can REALLY change a tunes afr. I'd at least want to see a dyno charted afr before taking it out and running it.
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In this case you are....



DEAD WRONG.



We all have wants, but this is something you are NOT going to get, ever.

Reason - already described above, there are no dynos able to simulate wind/riding speeds above 80mph.

You want proof it works, buy it, try it.

Should you use a Ducati Performance ECU, or a Bazzaz, or a Tuneboy, or a RapidBike, etc... for best results?

Yes.

Of course the same can be said for the stock bike with no modifications.


You have to remember, this air filter is not some gimmick.

IT IS A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM.

Yes, your stock bike has a PROBLEM (actually, the Panigale has several, but don't feel bad, most bikes do), and this problem (of fuel blowback, and power differentials between cylinders) is nearly completely SOLVED by using the MWR HE or R air filter, and can be CORRECTED even more accurately with the additional Filter Adjustment kit.

If you want more reasons, facts, references, etc... please go back to the top of this thread and read it again.
 
BellissiMoto said:
In this case you are....



DEAD WRONG.



We all have wants, but this is something you are NOT going to get, ever.

Reason - already described above, there are no dynos able to simulate wind/riding speeds above 80mph.

You want proof it works, buy it, try it.

Should you use a Ducati Performance ECU, or a Bazzaz, or a Tuneboy, or a RapidBike, etc... for best results?

Yes.

Of course the same can be said for the stock bike with no modifications.


You have to remember, this air filter is not some gimmick.

IT IS A SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM.

Yes, your stock bike has a PROBLEM (actually, the Panigale has several, but don't feel bad, most bikes do), and this problem (of fuel blowback, and power differentials between cylinders) is nearly completely SOLVED by using the MWR HE or R air filter, and can be CORRECTED even more accurately with the additional Filter Adjustment kit.

If you want more reasons, facts, references, etc... please go back to the top of this thread and read it again.
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So how will this filter not lean out the afr? I'm confused on that.
 
wilkson said:
I disagree . I would not recommend just sticking in a high flow air filter and just riding it could be a big deal if the bike is running too lean as a result .
The effects on riding is called the Placebo effect in many cases .
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Of course you're right in the lean issue... i mean stick it in and map it..
 
gatti man said:
So how will this filter not lean out the afr? I'm confused on that.
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It may at the bottom, and mapping is recommended, but the actual problem the bike has is not that it is too rich or lean, it is that the air, and in this case, more importantly - fuel, is not getting into the actual engine as well as it should.

The blowback into the airbox, and the power differential between cylinders is dramatic, and this filter solves that problem. So basically your original afr's are all way the hell out of wack from one cylinder to another, and this corrects it significantly.
 
BellissiMoto said:
It may at the bottom, and mapping is recommended, but the actual problem the bike has is not that it is too rich or lean, it is that the air, and in this case, more importantly - fuel, is not getting into the actual engine as well as it should.

The blowback into the airbox, and the power differential between cylinders is dramatic, and this filter solves that problem. So basically your original afr's are all way the hell out of wack from one cylinder to another, and this corrects it significantly.
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I get you. I agree that cylinder starvation could plague this engine based on its airbox design and knowing what I do from car motors. Well that decides that.
 
Need Member Assistance

Just spent 20 mins searching thru forum threads looking for the member who stated his MWR Filter was burned to a crisp by a loose fuel line. Does anyone recall where and who it was that posted this and then put up a photo of the burned filter after I asked?

If anyone stumbles across it could they please let me know somehow?

Thanks everyone! :D
 
Gunny Fitz said:
Just spent 20 mins searching thru forum threads looking for the member who stated his MWR Filter was burned to a crisp by a loose fuel line. Does anyone recall where and who it was that posted this and then put up a photo of the burned filter after I asked?

If anyone stumbles across it could they please let me know somehow?

Thanks everyone! :D
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It was Gnance.... The Bambi advocate...:D
 

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