Lawsuit from a Panigale Rider

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MMC said:
Let's get down to brass tacks here...WTF DOES happen to those birds???

"Cape Barren geese have a wing span of 6 ft, so no small issue, and are always at Phillip Island and mysteriously disappear the week before Moto GP . See where this all leads to."
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here. :RE:RE:RE


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Macattack said:
No disrespect intended especially since you have a lot of valid points maybe this Is a California way of thinking vs mid-west way of thinking .
IMO
where I live we have at least 4 life flight helo I'm sure most of the tracks I go to have a samaritan type helo. if you go to a trackday and cannot afford to get hurt and or do not have insurance with funds to cover your injuries You're not thinking clearly you shouldn't be on a track .
I've never been to a trackday where the people putting it on didn't warn the riders of hazards off the track. usually they say "take it easy in turn XX you don't want to go down in turn XX" as far as I know every track has at least one corner like this- laguna has several (IMO)
I was in Maui last week and watched so many people trying to surf and getting wadded up bad. it surprised me how many of those people thought there was no risk involved. I saw people getting lessons going into rocks and people trying to surf on their own getting pummeled by huge waves. I bet I saw 20 people in arm slings .
We as road racers and track-day riders should never be like those surfers their ignorance is based on being on land all day and never riding the big wave undertow and such is foreign to them.
if you ride a motorcycle one day you decide to hit the track and you feel there should be compensation for crashing - I just can't find the words .
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What do you mean by CA vs Midwest way of thinking? The track orgs will mention bad sections of the track from the morning inspection.

The point is, temporary items such as those sand bags should be removed for each track day event. Not just for professional races where sponsors, racers and a lot of money is there, summer time etc.

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The LifeFlight coverage is an addition fee and thankfully many are track orgs are starting to advertise it. It's mandatory to have medical coverage prior to signing the waiver. How much coverage, I'm sure most folks don't get the premium.

Tracks orgs between Southern CA and Northern CA are ran differently too. Safety is the main concern but I felt that the NorCal track orgs ran a smoother system then the SoCal track orgs. My first track day was in Sept 2003 and I've ridden all of the tracks on the Western Region; Willow Springs/SOW, California Speedway, Chuckwalla, Buttonwillow, Pahrump, Las Vegas Motor Speedway, Thunderhill, Laguna Seca, Sonoma Raceway, Reno Fernley and Miller Motorsports.
 
Calderara di Reno said:
Question ...... what would have been the outcome if the sand bags werent there and the culvert was not in disrepair ??
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He could've rode it out or laid it down but he definitely wouldnt have gone airborne. I get where the track day guys are mad and say hes a .... for suing but there shouldnt have been sand bags there and the sand bags is what made his crash way worse. Im no lawyer by any means but isnt the rule of thumb to sue high and settle on a lesser value of the high amount lol
 
Government funded healthcare FTW in australia the track day cost pays to have medical staff on standby and if you need a chopper its free. If you need a ambulance it’s either on standby at the track or pay a measly $900.

If you have ambulance cover it’s free or $50 depending on cover.
If your a age pensioner you can take a ride in the ambulance anytime for free.
 
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Halo2 said:
Government funded healthcare FTW in australia the track day cost pays to have medical staff on standby and if you need a chopper its free. If you need a ambulance it's either on standby at the track or pay a measly $900.

If you have ambulance cover it's free or $50 depending on cover.
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Nothing in life is free. ;)

Having an EMT on site during a track days is common occurrence. Thank goodness that majority of the crashes/red flags that I've seen occur during track days resulted in only a couple of bandages from the ambulance.

Keigwins@TheTrack - Enloe Flightcare
 
Lots of things use to be free or close enough in my parents day.

Our taxes pay for it, it isn’t recovered through a user pay system.
 
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Halo2 said:
Government funded healthcare FTW in australia the track day cost pays to have medical staff on standby and if you need a chopper its free. If you need a ambulance it's either on standby at the track or pay a measly $900.

If you have ambulance cover it's free or $50 depending on cover.
If your a age pensioner you can take a ride in the ambulance anytime for free.
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This is covered under Motorcycling Australia insurances LTD as part of your Day or Race licence during sanctioned events.
This is to cover the scraping you off the track and getting you to hospital and initial hospital care, but ongoing care then turns to the public health sector.

So indirectly I pay around $500 a year for this insurance. certain events or international invites you then required to pay for FIA level insurances.



Also this is what the CTP part of your rego covers aswell. scraping you off the road and getting you to hospital.
We had a young lad who crash his bike and didnt make it, he didnt have a current rego on his bike and his family got a bill of $25K for medical support to the accident.
 
MMC said:
Let's get down to brass tacks here...WTF DOES happen to those birds???

"Cape Barren geese have a wing span of 6 ft, so no small issue, and are always at Phillip Island and mysteriously disappear the week before Moto GP . See where this all leads to."
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Did a ride day at P.I. and at the briefing we were warned about the two Cape Barren geese at turn 1 that refuse to move from the grass a couple of meters inside the track edge . Show went on , geese stood there most of the day ! :cool:
A bit disconcerting, tipping in at 250, feathering the front brake (pun intended) with goose and co getting a birds eye view !
 
Calderara di Reno said:
Did a ride day at P.I. and at the briefing we were warned about the two Cape Barren geese at turn 1 that refuse to move from the grass a couple of meters inside the track edge . Show went on , geese stood there most of the day ! :cool:
A bit disconcerting, tipping in at 250, feathering the front brake (pun intended) with goose and co getting a birds eye view !
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Well put mate!!!!
 

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