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Hey,
Well new to this forum but long term Duke owner from the 851 days, through 916 SPS and currently have a Monster S4RS and a Diavel Carbon.
Thought I'd given up on 'sports bikes' as such but stuck with an irrational desire to buy an 1199. Irrational as I live on a island in the Atlantic where there are no tracks. However we do have some of the best mountain roads in the world here and 100's of kms right on my doorstep, see pictures.
Anyway, I'm trying to decide on which model, heart says Tri but head says base which leaves in the middle with the S. Then money comes in and Base with ABS makes the most sense I guess.
So suspension being the major difference I've got a couple of questions. The Monster has Ohlins (not as trick as they look on that but hey) and the Diavel standard base Ducati spec. Its taken a lot more time to dial the Diavel into the roads and my riding style, not helped by me not understand to get the best out of the Diavel you have to get up over the bars and ride supermoto style lighting the rear at will with the traction off.
I have now got a great setup and all the roads here are basically perfect tarmac with no bumps and holes so once you get a decent setup it just works (not even motorway/freeway here just one 30 km strip North to South) so very consistent and real need to play with setup once dialed in.
So those of you with bikes who are riding mountain twisties on the base model, have you dialed in the bikes and are they working or are you still thinking you need cartridges for the front and maybe a TTX for the rear?
If that's the case the S makes sense as you get the lighter rims that I'm a fan off, weight of big spinning things is very important and underestimated.
See the dilemma there?? reading through threads from searching so many opinions... anyway spent time with both models yet?
Secondly, headlights, struggling to find decent pictures that really shows the difference, can anyone help there?
Finally, at the moment it's around 35-45C daytime temp, I'm used to Duke heat from 916/996 even the Diavel is painful if stood, anyone with earlier Duke history care to compare heat of the 1199? Don't sit in traffic here or towns as there just isn't any traffic to sit in!
Ignoring emotional reasoning which I've got enough hassle with, are there other substantive things I should consider? And resale isn't really one as currently there is only one base model on the island so used they hold value very very well but take ages to sell as marketplace is tiny and local taxes make import/export of used bikes never worth it.
Anyway, hi all and hope to be making the decision soon.
One thing is Base ABS I can get within a couple weeks as the Spanish distributor on the mainland has one in a crate, S would be mid September and Tri would be November but give time to save a few more pennies.
Well new to this forum but long term Duke owner from the 851 days, through 916 SPS and currently have a Monster S4RS and a Diavel Carbon.
Thought I'd given up on 'sports bikes' as such but stuck with an irrational desire to buy an 1199. Irrational as I live on a island in the Atlantic where there are no tracks. However we do have some of the best mountain roads in the world here and 100's of kms right on my doorstep, see pictures.
Anyway, I'm trying to decide on which model, heart says Tri but head says base which leaves in the middle with the S. Then money comes in and Base with ABS makes the most sense I guess.
So suspension being the major difference I've got a couple of questions. The Monster has Ohlins (not as trick as they look on that but hey) and the Diavel standard base Ducati spec. Its taken a lot more time to dial the Diavel into the roads and my riding style, not helped by me not understand to get the best out of the Diavel you have to get up over the bars and ride supermoto style lighting the rear at will with the traction off.
I have now got a great setup and all the roads here are basically perfect tarmac with no bumps and holes so once you get a decent setup it just works (not even motorway/freeway here just one 30 km strip North to South) so very consistent and real need to play with setup once dialed in.
So those of you with bikes who are riding mountain twisties on the base model, have you dialed in the bikes and are they working or are you still thinking you need cartridges for the front and maybe a TTX for the rear?
If that's the case the S makes sense as you get the lighter rims that I'm a fan off, weight of big spinning things is very important and underestimated.
See the dilemma there?? reading through threads from searching so many opinions... anyway spent time with both models yet?
Secondly, headlights, struggling to find decent pictures that really shows the difference, can anyone help there?
Finally, at the moment it's around 35-45C daytime temp, I'm used to Duke heat from 916/996 even the Diavel is painful if stood, anyone with earlier Duke history care to compare heat of the 1199? Don't sit in traffic here or towns as there just isn't any traffic to sit in!
Ignoring emotional reasoning which I've got enough hassle with, are there other substantive things I should consider? And resale isn't really one as currently there is only one base model on the island so used they hold value very very well but take ages to sell as marketplace is tiny and local taxes make import/export of used bikes never worth it.
Anyway, hi all and hope to be making the decision soon.
One thing is Base ABS I can get within a couple weeks as the Spanish distributor on the mainland has one in a crate, S would be mid September and Tri would be November but give time to save a few more pennies.