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Sergio1199Panigale

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So I'm gonna get some sliders installed when I do my 600mi service in a week or so. Who went with non-drilled ones? I'm leaning towards the ones that don't require drilling. And what about spools and axle sliders, worth it?? Thanks fellow Ducatista :D
 
I haven't put them on yet, but I would probably go R&G. The Ducati experience school in the UK, runs them on their bikes. I think satos are probably the easier to fit. Can't say one will work better than the other. Ask one of the dealer here about post crash repairs on the bikes that had either/or.

Good luck.
 
Thamer said:
I haven't put them on yet, but I would probably go R&G. The Ducati experience school in the UK, runs them on their bikes. I think satos are probably the easier to fit. Can't say one will work better than the other. Ask one of the dealer here about post crash repairs on the bikes that had either/or.

Good luck.
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Thanks, I'll post what happens.
 
All of the slider kits that I know of for the Panigale don't require any drilling, since they all mount to the engine cases behind the fairings. I think the R&G's are the most thoughtfully designed in terms of providing crash protection without damaging the engine cases. The Sato's are definitely easier to install, just not quite as outright beefy as the R&G's. Since you're of the mind to not put cheap Chinese junk on your beautiful Ducati I won't mention the other ones! ;)
 
Jarelj

What are you thoughts on the T-Rex sliders?

They seem very substantially built but I've never seen them in person. I'm trying to outfit my bike with a full track setup and those caught my eye.
 
jarelj said:
All of the slider kits that I know of for the Panigale don't require any drilling, since they all mount to the engine cases behind the fairings. I think the R&G's are the most thoughtfully designed in terms of providing crash protection without damaging the engine cases. The Sato's are definitely easier to install, just not quite as outright beefy as the R&G's. Since you're of the mind to not put cheap Chinese junk on your beautiful Ducati I won't mention the other ones! ;)
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Haha yup! Thanks as yoozsh Jarel.
 
I have "experience" with the T-rex sliders, and I can't believe there is a better slider made. The mounting is super wheel thought out to minimize damage where mounted, right down to a loaded piece of rubber in the center of the left one. On a pretty fast lowside, the only damage (fairings included!) was a bent shifter, and I replaced with Woodcraft with folding toe pegs to eliminate that. Yup, they are butt fugly, but substaintial, and they work
 
I have experience (3x) with the Sato Engine Sliders and very highly recommend them as well. They are very well engineered (the bolts bend under stress rather than damage the mounting points in the engine cases.)

I also very strongly recommend the Woodcraft clutch cover. It is very very tough whereas the stock item and DP cover, while elegant, are at best one use items--and since it is a wet clutch the last thing you want should you low side on the right is a holed clutch cover. Mine was paper thin after my first right side low side at the track.

I'm also thinking about getting something more robust on the right.

I've got Speedymoto fork sliders as well and they have proven themselves highly effective.

I'd also consider Rhinomoto bar end sliders--they are very tough.

Steve
 
T-rex for the money are great

You can get the whole kit for like 250 and it comes with axle sliders.

Great quality.
 
roadster said:
I have experience (3x) with the Sato Engine Sliders and very highly recommend them as well. They are very well engineered (the bolts bend under stress rather than damage the mounting points in the engine cases.)

I also very strongly recommend the Woodcraft clutch cover. It is very very tough whereas the stock item and DP cover, while elegant, are at best one use items--and since it is a wet clutch the last thing you want should you low side on the right is a holed clutch cover. Mine was paper thin after my first right side low side at the track.

I'm also thinking about getting something more robust on the right.

I've got Speedymoto fork sliders as well and they have proven themselves highly effective.

I'd also consider Rhinomoto bar end sliders--they are very tough.

Steve
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Thanks Steve. I'm still on the fence about fork sliders. When I low sided on the track I thought the frame sliders was where the bike was sliding along with the bars turned over to the one side. Not sure the forks were ever scraping. Am I wrong? It was 6 years ago haha.
 
mrbrettbaker said:
I have "experience" with the T-rex sliders, and I can't believe there is a better slider made. The mounting is super wheel thought out to minimize damage where mounted, right down to a loaded piece of rubber in the center of the left one. On a pretty fast lowside, the only damage (fairings included!) was a bent shifter, and I replaced with Woodcraft with folding toe pegs to eliminate that. Yup, they are butt fugly, but substaintial, and they work
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Where are T-Rexs made?
 
i think all sliders for the 1199 are a waste. if you have insurance you are going to need a new fairing anyway. no cut sliders on other bikes will snap off usually inside an important engine mount. i have small woodcraft cut sliders on the ninja and thats because its my track bike and uninsured.

if i was to wreck the 1199 i would want it totaled. imo sliders are only good if someone knocks it over and even then you still need a new fairing. waste of money. my friend crashed his s1000rr on the track slider did nothing but snap off. i saw another guy who had longer sliders and it caught the track and sent the bike flipping. if he had no sliders bike would have just slid but the slider caught the ground.

so if you get a frame slider no cut and the 1199 goes down and you scratch the mid fairing (cost for fairing 1500) since you got the slider that fairing still gets scratched are you not getting a new fairing anyway.?
 
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I've seen them both work and fail. Low-sided my RC8R and it cost me $65 bucks to replace the slider...that was it the bike remained pristine. I have also seen a bike slide until it hit the rumble strip and flip over and over and over.

In the end it's complete luck and circumstance... I say better to have and not need. If it is your track/road bike go for it. If it is a race bike don't bother.
 
Thamer said:
I've seen them both work and fail. Low-sided my RC8R and it cost me $65 bucks to replace the slider...that was it the bike remained pristine. I have also seen a bike slide until it hit the rumble strip and flip over and over and over.

In the end it's complete luck and circumstance... I say better to have and not need. If it is your track/road bike go for it. If it is a race bike don't bother.
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Ditto that Thamer. I got hit by a Porsche Caymen S at a low speed and my Triumph 675 Daytona went down. After I got up, I walked to my bike, lifted it, and fired her up. Slider saved the fairing and no work needed! Then I lowsided at Thunderhill Turn 1 and the bike slid to the rumble strip and flipped over and over til it was in 3 pieces.
 
mark419ny said:
i think all sliders for the 1199 are a waste. if you have insurance you are going to need a new fairing anyway. no cut sliders on other bikes will snap off usually inside an important engine mount. i have small woodcraft cut sliders on the ninja and thats because its my track bike and uninsured.

if i was to wreck the 1199 i would want it totaled. imo sliders are only good if someone knocks it over and even then you still need a new fairing. waste of money. my friend crashed his s1000rr on the track slider did nothing but snap off. i saw another guy who had longer sliders and it caught the track and sent the bike flipping. if he had no sliders bike would have just slid but the slider caught the ground.

so if you get a frame slider no cut and the 1199 goes down and you scratch the mid fairing (cost for fairing 1500) since you got the slider that fairing still gets scratched are you not getting a new fairing anyway.?
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Good point Mark.
 
There are many options, and the search function of the forum works OK if you simply look for the search term "slider".

T-Rex frame sliders FTW! mrbrettbaker is one of at least 2 actual crash stories I've read on this forum in the last 2 years where T-Rex frame sliders did their job correctly and saved bike parts from damage in actual crashes, and at least one a racetrack at that.

Here are pictures of mine installed:






 
bike has no frame so there is no real protection for it. i dont know i would just want a new one
 
JeffD said:
There are many options, and the search function of the forum works OK if you simply look for the search term "slider".

T-Rex frame sliders FTW! mrbrettbaker is one of at least 2 actual crash stories I've read on this forum in the last 2 years where T-Rex frame sliders did their job correctly and saved bike parts from damage in actual crashes, and at least one a racetrack at that.

Here are pictures of mine installed:






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Those are some tig ol' bitties lol. Can you rest your knee on the left one? I'm leaning towards Sato and R&G. Whichever I can get a deal on :D

Interesting wheels......
 
For those that said "i hope my bike is totalled", please spare thoughts on us who go to the track. Insurance on track is quite rare, which is why we try to 'insure' our bikes with track fairings and sliders to save it as much as possible (i.e., increase likelihood of survival and minimise critical damage). Horses for courses, which is often hard when talking in forums with people from all walks and no firm context given.

Good info guys. Keep them coming.
I would love trex (more stories about how it works) but i like Sato's shape better. Just trying to get confirmation if it works as well or nearly as well at all. Ta'

P.s. Not sure about RG case protectors. My bro lowsided (50kph ish) on the track with brand new RG case protector on his 600 and it wore through. Saved the clutch cover, but a bit disappointed that it wore completely through even at such low speed.
 
As I mentioned before I am sharing my experience based on 3 separate right side low sides at the track. In every case both the fork sliders and the Sato engine sliders prevented serious and expensive damage to both the forks and the fairing.

I ride my bike on both the road and the track (12,000 miles: 9,000 miles road/3,000 miles track) so track fairings aren't an option that works for me.

As many of you know, luck is a big factor in what happens once you crash at the track. If the bike flips after sliding or if you high side it won't really matter what protection you've put on the bike.

Steve
 

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