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Project 1408 - 1299 Superleggera - Official
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That statement is inaccurate.
You can't really look at WSBK to determine the competitiveness of a machine. WSBK is a testament of the competitiveness of a factory, and a team, and a compilation of aftermarket parts, electronics, engine builds, etc.
The WSBK machines have very, very little in common with the stock bikes. Therefore you can't really look at WSBK and judge how good (or bad) a bike is. The motor, swingarm, gas tank, triples, linkage, suspension, electronics, brakes, etc are all aftermarket and/or heavily modified. That is why even the Honda and Suzuki can be competitive in SBK form.
Saying the Panigale wasn't successful because they didn't immediately win in WSBK makes about as much sense as saying the Chevy Impala is super fast because it wins in NASCAR.
To get a true measure of how good a machine is, you have to look at World Superstock, where the machines are raced very close to stock form (only bolt-on parts are allowed, motors are bone stock other than you can change the head gasket).
The Panigale was immediately competitive in Superstock racing, finishing 2nd to Kawasaki in its very first year of competition, and has been highly competitive ever since.
Leandro Mercado won the SSTK title in 2014 on the Barni backed 1199. Tati Mercado should have won this year, going into the last rac of the year with tha points lead.
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What does this adjust?
Brake lever.
You can put them aftermarket on any bike. All of my race bikes have always had one.
Edit: I see this was already answered.
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Interesting news for the USA per the live feed today. 1299SL to have under the bike exhaust vs the Euro version. Also the US version will weigh 165 kilo vs 167 kilo for Europe.
I don't necessarily disagree with you. However, my Panigale has a lot of..... bling, non-track related parts on it as many here have as well. If that bike hits the ground it's a total wash or potentially anyway. That's not a risk i'm willing to take. My track bike is a 2011 S1000RR that I purchased second hand and has specific items on it for the track. If that bike hits the deck it has items on it to protect it and maybe, just maybe it survives. If it doesn't..... well that sucks, but I still have my pride and joy to ride everyday.
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re the carbon swingarm -- if the chain hits even once and there is the slightest nick in its surface, that thing is potentially kaput... stupid marketing decision to sucker people in that are wowed by cf, but no team will ever use a carbon swingarm ever in any race.
the bike does look gorgeous -- if i were to buy it i'd source an 1199SL swingarm and black it out.....
the bike does look gorgeous -- if i were to buy it i'd source an 1199SL swingarm and black it out.....
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Those who are dishing out the money for this thing, probably don't... as they're compensating for the lack of their "junk"... lol
I'm just envious I can't afford one... oh well
I'm not sure that's an accurate line of thinking? It's more likely that a racing series governing body (i.e. rules) will not allow them more than teams not running them for safety reasons. Take Formula 1 for example. Carbon fiber has been used extensively in that series for a while now; particularly in the suspension area with an extremely high level of success and low level of failure. Also, I'm sure in the area where the chain passes through the swingarm, that area is protected with hard plastic slide plates or some other material to protect the swing arm. Non CF swing arms have these slide plates now.
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They have been using carbon fiber swingarms at the GP level for a long time. Including the Ducati GP bikes.
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never saw one.....what is the frequency of replacement, assuming they actually do run them?
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They have been running them since back when Stoner was on the bike, and are still using them now. Tons of pics/articles on google. They are/were in use in 125's, 250's, and Moto 3 as well. I don't know the replacement stats on them though. Probably something you could find in a Mat Oxley article I would bet.
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This one actually looks like it has some damage on it, from the Ducati 14.2 bike
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This one actually looks like it has some damage on it, from the Ducati 14.2 bike
looks completely different from 1299SL -- far beefier and double-sided... still dont trust it on longish service street bike -- they prob swap em and test em all the time.....
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The under bike exhaust is how it comes stock. It comes with the SBK exhaust in the box as an accessory.
The under bike exhaust is how it comes stock. It comes with the SBK exhaust in the box as an accessory.
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Yeah, the GP ones are huge. The ones on the little bikes look tiny though. I would imagine the x-ray them after crashes before putting them back into service. I seem to recall that the Pierobon daul sided swingarm was supposed to save a bunch of weight over the single sided version. But I've never seen a report of one in the wild.
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