Promising Ducati 1199 lap times at Phillip Island SBK test (SPOILER ALERT)

Great article, thanks for posting that Jeff! I'm surprised that Checa's bike didn't have the downshift blipper function, I thought pretty much all the top-level Superbikes had that by now. I'll bet this year's bike has it!

that was a great article. Wow, I knew the Ducati was down on power, but I didn't realize just how drastic it was in WSBK trim. Sounds like this year is going to be a rough one.

Best article on 2013 yet ..

good to see the man himself blame Gobmeyers lack of Focus on the Pani for getting behind while chasing Moby .... in GP.... Alstare has been furious about this... it took them like 3 weeks to have a new camshaft manufactured. With Suzuki, it was next week install... Corse wouldn' deliver new parts when the old ones hadn't gotten back at the factory.. months were lost..

and the electronics do have changed the game..

reportedly the Honda GP bikes carry 3 gyros that are fed into the algorythms at a cost of 40K per gyro.. that's a 120K shoebox...

jarelj said:

Great article, thanks for posting that Jeff! I'm surprised that Checa's bike didn't have the downshift blipper function, I thought pretty much all the top-level Superbikes had that by now. I'll bet this year's bike has it!

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It looks like Canepa's bike has it? Or amI wrong?

shakazulu12 said:

that was a great article. Wow, I knew the Ducati was down on power, but I didn't realize just how drastic it was in WSBK trim. Sounds like this year is going to be a rough one.

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Something else that should be considered here are the new engine cap and engine maintenance restrictions that will be imposed on teams for the 2014 season (total of 8 engines for the season, 6 for EVO - as opposed to the rumored 40 engines Aprilia was allocating to each rider last year).

Aprilia and Kawasaki were reportedly running over 230bhp and 240bhp respectively, which correlates with the high trap speeds we saw them produce throughout the season. However, these two manufacturers were also rumored to be using several engines per bike for each race weekend in order to achieve those numbers. Considering the Aprilia produces around 177bhp at the crank in stock trim, you can imagine what kind of tune they were having to run to get power in the 230+bhp range. Even with the stock ZX-10R producing right around 200bhp, a 40 hp jump is still fairly substantial. A good example of the extreme tunes these teams were using last year can be seen in the Moscow race where Sykes' bike loses power mid-corn before deciding to self-detonate.



What affects will this have on race results and end of season standings? We'll just have to wait and see, but it should help close the top end power gap between the high revving 4's and the Ducatis.

pumped!

Duck41, I think you're right on. Just read an article describing how the kawa had 40hp on the 1199 in wsbk. Considering superstock result, and street bike Hp, where the 1199 kicks everyone's a**, kawa and aprilia must be pushing their tuning very hard. Hope you're prognostic pans out. We'll be in for an exciting season. Can't wait for this weekend!!!

We'll see soon enough, but after FP2 we have five different makes taking the top five spots on the timesheets (two of which had basically been written off as uncompetitive last year), and the top eight within half a second. Has the makings of a great season.

FP3 Results - F'n A!!

No. Rider Nat Team Bike Time Gap Rel. Laps Avg
Speed
Max
1 22 A. LOWES GBR Voltcom Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'30.566 10 176,689 305,9
2 58 E. LAVERTY IRL Voltcom Crescent Suzuki Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'30.801 0.235 0.235 19 176,232 307,7
3 34 D. GIUGLIANO ITA Ducati Superbike Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'30.864 0.298 0.063 13 176,109 304,2
4 7 C. DAVIES GBR Ducati Superbike Team Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'30.962 0.396 0.098 14 175,920 305,9
5 1 T. SYKES GBR Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'30.982 0.416 0.020 16 175,881 309,5
6 59 N. CANEPA ITA Althea Racing Ducati 1199 Panigale R EVO 1'31.065 0.499 0.083 19 175,721 299,2
7 50 S. GUINTOLI FRA Aprilia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'31.087 0.521 0.022 13 175,678 314,9
8 65 J. REA GBR PATA Honda World Superbike Honda CBR1000RR 1'31.091 0.525 0.004 19 175,670 309,5
9 76 L. BAZ FRA Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'31.211 0.645 0.120 18 175,439 308,6
10 33 M. MELANDRI ITA Aprilia Racing Team Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'31.329 0.763 0.118 5 175,213 313,0
11 24 T. ELIAS ESP Red Devils Roma Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'31.412 0.846 0.083 17 175,054 316,7
12 91 L. HASLAM GBR PATA Honda World Superbike Honda CBR1000RR 1'31.430 0.864 0.018 15 175,019 308,6
13 14 G. ALLERTON AUS BMW Motorrad Italia SBK BMW S1000 RR EVO 1'31.962 1.396 0.532 19 174,007 302,5
14 44 D. SALOM ESP Kawasaki Racing Team Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'32.140 1.574 0.178 19 173,671 297,5
15 9 F. FORET FRA MAHI Racing Team India Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'32.382 1.816 0.242 21 173,216 291,9
16 71 C. CORTI ITA MV Agusta RC-Yakhnich M. MV Agusta F4 RR 1'32.615 2.049 0.233 14 172,780 300,0
17 32 S. MORAIS RSA IRON BRAIN Kawasaki SBK Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'32.926 2.360 0.311 19 172,202 292,7
18 11 J. GUARNONI FRA MRS Kawasaki Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'33.096 2.530 0.170 16 171,887 291,1
19 21 A. ANDREOZZI ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'33.722 3.156 0.626 18 170,739 290,3
20 10 I. TOTH HUN BMW Team Toth BMW S1000 RR 1'34.249 3.683 0.527 16 169,784 306,8
21 12 M. WALTERS AUS Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'34.453 3.887 0.204 14 169,418 291,1
22 20 A. YATES USA Team Hero EBR EBR 1190 RX 1'35.521 4.955 1.068 20 167,523 273,4
23 99 G. MAY USA Team Hero EBR EBR 1190 RX 1'36.150 5.584 0.629 3 166,427 287,2
24 56 P. SEBESTYEN HUN BMW Team Toth BMW S1000 RR EVO 1'37.274 6.708 1.124 10 164,504 287,2

Good to see canepa on the evo bike at 6th

looseduke said:

Good to see canepa on the evo bike at 6th

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He has maintained a nice gap over the other EVOs throughout testing and is now nearly a full second ahead of the second fastest EVO thus far (BMW). The fact that he's doing that and mixing it up with the full spec bikes is pretty exciting.

guigliano ducati 1199r superpole # 2 !!! almost number 1 but guantoli took #1 and beat checa record

Giugliano very impressive qualifying 2nd on the grid, splitting the Aprilias! Both Guintoli and Giugliano were under Checa's prior lap record. Also impressive was Canepa qualifying 10th on the Evo. Davies 11th, but he had a big moment in the last sector on his flying lap, so that pretty much did him in, otherwise he would have been up there a little farther too. The races should be very interesting tomorrow!
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Superbike Superpole 2 Session Complete

Pos Dorsal Name Bike Best Lap S1 S2 S3 Last Lap Gap First Last Speed
1 50 S. GUINTOLI Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'30.038 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 294,3
2 34 D. GIUGLIANO Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'30.135 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.097 302,5
3 33 M. MELANDRI Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'30.332 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.294 311,2
4 58 E. LAVERTY Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'30.385 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.347
5 22 A. LOWES Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'30.421 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.383 302,5
6 65 J. REA Honda CBR1000RR 1'30.660 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.622 306,8
7 76 L. BAZ Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'30.796 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.758 304,2
8 1 T. SYKES Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'30.835 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.797 307,7
9 91 L. HASLAM Honda CBR1000RR 1'31.138 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 1.100 300,0
10 59 N. CANEPA Ducati 1199 Panigale R EVO 1'31.274 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 1.236 287,2
11 7 C. DAVIES Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'31.281 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 1.243 302,5
12 44 D. SALOM Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'31.950 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 1.912 293,5
13 24 T. ELIAS Aprilia RSV4 Factory ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
14 71 C. CORTI MV Agusta F4 RR ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
15 9 F. FORET Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
16 21 A. ANDREOZZI Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
17 11 J. GUARNONI Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
18 32 S. MORAIS Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
19 14 G. ALLERTON BMW S1000 RR EVO ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
20 10 I. TOTH BMW S1000 RR ------- ------- ------- PIT IN

jarelj said:

Giugliano very impressive qualifying 2nd on the grid, splitting the Aprilias! Both Guintoli and Giugliano were under Checa's prior lap record. Also impressive was Canepa qualifying 10th on the Evo. Davies 11th, but he had a big moment in the last sector on his flying lap, so that pretty much did him in, otherwise he would have been up there a little farther too. The races should be very interesting tomorrow!
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Superbike Superpole 2 Session Complete

Pos Dorsal Name Bike Best Lap S1 S2 S3 Last Lap Gap First Last Speed
1 50 S. GUINTOLI Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'30.038 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 294,3
2 34 D. GIUGLIANO Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'30.135 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.097 302,5
3 33 M. MELANDRI Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'30.332 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.294 311,2
4 58 E. LAVERTY Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'30.385 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.347
5 22 A. LOWES Suzuki GSX-R1000 1'30.421 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.383 302,5
6 65 J. REA Honda CBR1000RR 1'30.660 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.622 306,8
7 76 L. BAZ Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'30.796 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.758 304,2
8 1 T. SYKES Kawasaki ZX-10R 1'30.835 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 0.797 307,7
9 91 L. HASLAM Honda CBR1000RR 1'31.138 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 1.100 300,0
10 59 N. CANEPA Ducati 1199 Panigale R EVO 1'31.274 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 1.236 287,2
11 7 C. DAVIES Ducati 1199 Panigale R 1'31.281 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 1.243 302,5
12 44 D. SALOM Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO 1'31.950 ------- ------- ------- PIT IN 1.912 293,5
13 24 T. ELIAS Aprilia RSV4 Factory ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
14 71 C. CORTI MV Agusta F4 RR ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
15 9 F. FORET Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
16 21 A. ANDREOZZI Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
17 11 J. GUARNONI Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
18 32 S. MORAIS Kawasaki ZX-10R EVO ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
19 14 G. ALLERTON BMW S1000 RR EVO ------- ------- ------- PIT IN
20 10 I. TOTH BMW S1000 RR ------- ------- ------- PIT IN

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beat me to it thanks

Very nice qualifying time for Giugliano! Unfortunately the same can't be said for Davies. You could see the frustration in his expression at the end. Getting beat out by the EVO bike is going to hurt his pride a little.

Canepa turns in six tenths ahead of the EVO crowd. Excellent!

A lot of good vibes coming from the commentators regarding the Panigale. Looking forward to the races tomorrow.

Looking good. Lets hope the tires last tomorrow. I also heard a comment about new rules limiting suspension cost. Right after Sykes crash. That may also be helping Ducati when the big bucks companies can't put very expensive parts on their bikes anymore. Fingers crossed.

looseduke said:

How the hell did a suzuki get to the front

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Alex Lowes. Eugene Laverty nuff said

Don't knock Chaz he's a phenomenal rider. Three different bike three seasons in a row. Managed to win on each of the first two. He's a Sunday guy. Always races better then he qualifies. Hell he even had a win on the triumph 675 at lemans. Taken away by running out of gas. Pretty much rolled over the superspott class in 09 or 10

1 58 e. Laverty
2 33 m. Melandri
3 50 s. Guintoli
4 34 d. Giugliano
5 76 l. Baz
6 65 j. Rea
7 1 t. Sykes
8 7 c. Davies
9 44 d. Salom
10 59 n. Canepa
11 14 g. Allerton
12 9 f. Foret
13 71 c. Corti
14 11 j. Guarnoni
15 32 s. Morais
16 10 i. Toth
17 20 a. Yates

interesting race....