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last I'll say on the subject as I'll share the wealth with the other mods.

I do not get a general feeling from the overall board members that they want to change the level of moderation (ie more use of banning, etc). Until such time as that happens, this board will remain with the level of moderation it's had for a year or so. As mods we're not perfect, we don't see all and know all about all threads. That's why the "report post" tool is very important, as directs to a problem immediately. I have neither the time nor desire to inspect every message in every thread every day.

I respectfully suggest, if this is not to your liking, you could set up a poll in the forum asking about moderation, ie more/less.

I'll let STW, Phil and Xbox chime in as they see fit.



Duck41 said:
Here is a decent example of what this thread may/should have looked like if not for the trollish tampering antics, posted approximately three hours after the first post of this thread: R owners, how much did you pay for yours?...

Which do you feel is a) more enjoyable to read, b) more helpful to the OP, and c) a better representation of the Ducati ownership community? Do you believe that thread would have been either of those things if someone was permitted to intentionally derail the topic? The ignore option is a personal preference tool, it is not a moderator's solution for a public nuisance.
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quackquack said:
Steve/stw moderator and zvez moderator Phil/Phil moderator as well help out with people trying to sell items fraudulently or posts from craiglistbuyer and movie download cyborgs I believe they do there job more then good enough ! To expect a moderator to interfere between debates of ones feelings or deliberate antagonism over IDIOTS that don't know how to ignore and keep moving is wrong and just stupid... Mark looks stupid to you guys (and I'm not just saying this because he's my friend I like all of you guys) but ultimately you guys entertain him and add wood to his fire.... I feel like he will stop bitching when you guys do.... I love my bike !!!! Man if the .... don't start and all I can do is stare I love it!!!! Mark knows this I know this but we don't quarrel just be open minded be adults and while you guys compare him to your "daughters" you guys sound like the girl who's retaliating with your daughters or kids and stop the spelling correction ........ I know doctors and people in the med field making $ 700,000.00 that can't spell ... We are not writing essays just communicating



Bitchesssssss!!!!!!!!! Whores!!!!!!! Grrrrrerr!!!!!

Lmaooooo
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This is not just about ignoring this behavior as that is simple enough to do without the assistance of a dedicated ignore feature; rather, this is about taking measures to preserve the quality of information within this forum for both current and future users. It is both a distraction and a deterrence to the productivity and helpfulness of this forum. If he wants to complain about certain issues and compliment another product, great! But do it in a dedicated thread where it is not a deterrence to unrelated discourse.
 
Stw and zvez,

I believe that in general many are indeed happy with the level of moderation of this forum; however, this is one instance where that doesn't necessarily seem to be the case. This is not an isolated incident involving only a few people. This has been an ongoing issue that is becoming progressively worse. I do not believe anyone is expecting any of the moderators to take time to go through each post, but I do believe that members expect moderators to act against persistent, intentional efforts to devalue the forum as you become aware of them.
 
quackquack said:
Steve/stw moderator and zvez moderator Phil/Phil moderator as well help out with people trying to sell items fraudulently or posts from craiglistbuyer and movie download cyborgs I believe they do there job more then good enough ! To expect a moderator to interfere between debates of ones feelings or deliberate antagonism over IDIOTS that don't know how to ignore and keep moving is wrong and just stupid... Mark looks stupid to you guys (and I'm not just saying this because he's my friend I like all of you guys) but ultimately you guys entertain him and add wood to his fire.... I feel like he will stop bitching when you guys do.... I love my bike !!!! Man if the .... don't start and all I can do is stare I love it!!!! Mark knows this I know this but we don't quarrel just be open minded be adults and while you guys compare him to your "daughters" you guys sound like the girl who's retaliating with your daughters or kids and stop the spelling correction ........ I know doctors and people in the med field making $ 700,000.00 that can't spell ... We are not writing essays just communicating



Bitchesssssss!!!!!!!!! Whores!!!!!!! Grrrrrerr!!!!!

Lmaooooo
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Or he could do the right thing and stop. Let me ask you this as his friend, do you read some of his posts and think it's right how he carries himself? Would you act the same way? I honestly don't really care about his nonsense but I ask you this because you seem like a good dude and a contributor to the community sticking up for a guy that dug his own grave in this forum.

He said he was going to stop bitching and whining a while ago. But went back on his word....says more about his character than any of his other 1,800 whiny posts IMO.
 
Duck41 said:
This is not just about ignoring this behavior as that is simple enough to do without the assistance of a dedicated ignore feature; rather, this is about taking measures to preserve the quality of information within this forum for both current and future users. It is both a distraction and a deterrence to the productivity and helpfulness of this forum. If he wants to complain about certain issues and compliment another product, great! But do it in a dedicated thread where it is not a deterrence to unrelated discourse.
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I think this is spot on. I don't think anyone can argue that it's progressed to the point where it's simply trolling. The reason forums ban trolls has everything to do with the fact that a forums quality is completely dependent on the quality of the discourse in each thread. When threads devolve time after time so does the forum as a whole.

I'm joining in to ask the mods to take a tougher stance on trolling and ban people that continue to do it.
 
Anyone that intentionally causes others stress for their own entertainment is practicing dysfunctional and antisocial behavior.

There has been a "mark"ed pattern of passive aggressive, sarcastic and generally escalating negative attention seeking behavior lately. It would seem that a firmer hand is needed in order to keep it in check.

May I suggest that the following simple solution that has been in use by the military with great success for years be implemented immediately.

After all, early detection enables the wise to take action before the problem grows and/or spreads through the practice of ignorance.

Please require the following form to be filled out and reviewed by the members BEFORE negative views are permitted on the forum:
 

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As to the OP, sub 30K OTD with appropriate mileage, termi install included would temp me to sign the paper.
 
mark419ny said:
whats the matter Jim can't have an opinion opposite of an ....... like yourself. So the purpose of the forum is to do nothing but sing kumbyya about the bike. . Do you blow the tailpipe of your ducati saying its the best ever? don't worry big guy. you are still the best out there i love riding you with my butt plug in so when i hit the bumps you feel so good. if you don't want to read my post ignore them. i don't give 2 ..... what you think. i never said how wonderful the bmw . i don't own the bmw YET. do you have to attack bmw because your panigale may be inferior. i said the ducati is not worth the money. i said bmw (and i do that on purpose you can substitute any brand you want but i use bmw cause you ........ can't take if someone says bmw is a better bike get it). why don't you go the .... away. i point out the flaws as i see them if you don't like it to ....... bad. maybe you and you ducati buddies can convince each other how great this bike is and give each other a tongue bath. pretty tough you are behind a keyboard aren't you duchebag jim. i know how you feel AD NAUSEUM please just go the .... away.

PS I don't know one person personally that owns the BMW but i know plenty that own the 1199 and have had the same problems i have had.

i will continue to bash the panigale every chance i get even if its not true so you get annoyed.
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Mark I sold an s1000rr before 1200km because I couldn't bear the vibration that bmw Australia couldn't tell why and my hand getting numb after and hour on the bike.fine when your are doing 160km/h and above.I believe people are fitting a weight to the bar. The grass is always green on the other side get your hp4 and be happy I picked up the R I am not a racer and no numb hand I am happy.
Better still buy one expensive (exotic )car and let us know if it is flawless
 
quackquack said:
Steve/stw moderator and zvez moderator Phil/Phil moderator as well help out with people trying to sell items fraudulently or posts from craiglistbuyer and movie download cyborgs I believe they do there job more then good enough ! To expect a moderator to interfere between debates of ones feelings or deliberate antagonism over IDIOTS that don't know how to ignore and keep moving is wrong and just stupid... Mark looks stupid to you guys (and I'm not just saying this because he's my friend I like all of you guys) but ultimately you guys entertain him and add wood to his fire.... I feel like he will stop bitching when you guys do.... I love my bike !!!! Man if the .... don't start and all I can do is stare I love it!!!! Mark knows this I know this but we don't quarrel just be open minded be adults and while you guys compare him to your "daughters" you guys sound like the girl who's retaliating with your daughters or kids and stop the spelling correction ........ I know doctors and people in the med field making $ 700,000.00 that can't spell ... We are not writing essays just communicating



Bitchesssssss!!!!!!!!! Whores!!!!!!! Grrrrrerr!!!!!

Lmaooooo
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"their" = pronoun, indicating it belongs, (the one you should have used)

"there" = adverb, normally indicating a place.

QQ you asked for that LOL :)
 
to this day I still have problems with their and there..............


bradp51 said:
"their" = pronoun, indicating it belongs, (the one you should have used)

"there" = adverb, normally indicating a place.

QQ you asked for that LOL :)
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WOW WOW WOW. It is absolutely abhorrent that I had to read through all that nonsense and back and forth. I clicked on this thread to find out approx what price to pay for an R. Instead I read about opinions on Ducati vs BMW, mostly insults and opinions and generalizations. Can the moderator move off topic answers and conversations? I had to read 12 pages of utter crap to find any actual answers to the original question.

Anyone actually buy an R lately? If you would be kind enough to only respond with OTD prices paid on an R. Thank you very kindly.
 
Rockwell in upstate NY has a great deal on a new R with termis & radiator protectors already installed.....
 
Pman1199 said:
WOW WOW WOW. It is absolutely abhorrent that I had to read through all that nonsense and back and forth. I clicked on this thread to find out approx what price to pay for an R. Instead I read about opinions on Ducati vs BMW, mostly insults and opinions and generalizations. Can the moderator move off topic answers and conversations? I had to read 12 pages of utter crap to find any actual answers to the original question.

Anyone actually buy an R lately? If you would be kind enough to only respond with OTD prices paid on an R. Thank you very kindly.
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You need to adjust your user settings so there will only be three pages of crap:rolleyes:
 
Mark is just a "fancy" TROLL; i dont mind him bc he's nothing really but a little bitter man crapping on this forum, but it is HIS RIGHT to act that way.....njoy and/or ignore...


edit: and if u think Mark really loved his HP4, then why would he b trolling here ¿ ¿ ¿ clearly he wants another Pani...
 
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Pman1199 said:
WOW WOW WOW. It is absolutely abhorrent that I had to read through all that nonsense and back and forth. I clicked on this thread to find out approx what price to pay for an R. Instead I read about opinions on Ducati vs BMW, mostly insults and opinions and generalizations. Can the moderator move off topic answers and conversations? I had to read 12 pages of utter crap to find any actual answers to the original question.

Anyone actually buy an R lately? If you would be kind enough to only respond with OTD prices paid on an R. Thank you very kindly.
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Haha, I totally forgot about this post. I found a dealership near me Cycles 128 who has a 2013 R on the floor. They are willing to sell $27,800 OTD. Because I told them about seacoast, and they want to earn my business. Another dealership in Derry NH: Seacoast sport cycles has a 2014 R for $30,999 MSRP but they are giving 10% in store credit so you get $3100 in store credit for parts and accessories.

That's what I found in my neck of the woods. I'm still saving for a large down payment on the R, but in the meantime I kinda want to see what "fixes" they have for 2015 R. If they have the .99% financing promo again, I'll pick one up tomorrow. :)
 

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