Safety-wired Valve-cover bolts for 899/1199

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I pm'ed you. I would like to put my name in for a set if it is not to late.
 
I would be up for a set for my 2012 base, I finally got the oil leak on the V cyl.
Please PM me for pricing.
On another note, I was at PRI all last week and a top fuel guy was explaining to me how chlorinated cleaners can weaken Ti fasteners! This is something I've never heard before, if your making Ti fasteners I figured you might know if there is any truth to this.
 
centeroff said:
I would be up for a set for my 2012 base, I finally got the oil leak on the V cyl.
Please PM me for pricing.
On another note, I was at PRI all last week and a top fuel guy was explaining to me how chlorinated cleaners can weaken Ti fasteners! This is something I've never heard before, if your making Ti fasteners I figured you might know if there is any truth to this.
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i put you on the list of Page 6 of this thread. Estimated cost is USD 131.- plus shipping. Contains 10 Screws for h- and v-cyl heads. Made from Ti Gr 5.
It's as usual a non-profit project, costs might slightly vary. Raw material is already ordered an I'll get in touch with the manufacturer how much more kits he could produce with the ordered material.

Don't worry about the Titanium alloy, it's not from some chinese garage. It's ordered from industrial seller and comes with quality approval.

Titanium doesn't like fluorine, dry chlorine gas and fuming nitric acid.
Never seen such stuff in a normal motorcycle workshop :)
 
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While contemplating on how to secure the bolts properly, I thought it might be easier to design special washers that could be used replacing the OEM ones. Bolts could be torqued first and then wired to the washers instead the next bolt. Friction points between safety wires and Mg covers could be drastically reduced.

I made a small drawing and asked two manufacturers whether they want to build them for reasonable price. Of course Ti.

Maybe one of you guys already know a supplier for such washers?
 

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Gecko said:
While contemplating on how to secure the bolts properly, I thought it might be easier to design special washers that could be used replacing the OEM ones. Bolts could be torqued first and then wired to the washers instead the next bolt. Friction points between safety wires and Mg covers could be drastically reduced.

I made a small drawing and asked two manufacturers whether they want to build them for reasonable price. Of course Ti.

Maybe one of you guys already know a supplier for such washers?
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Sorry Gecko; I don't really know anybody around my area (middle of no-where). My best guess would be to send the diagram to Probolt or someone like that to make them.
That said, wouldn't the washers just spin, making the safety-wiring useless? I know there is a large distance between bolts; but, I was just planning on wiring one bolt to the other.
 
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Sorry Gecko; I don't really know anybody around my area (middle of no-where). My best guess would be to send the diagram to Probolt or someone like that to make them.
That said, wouldn't the washers just spin, making the safety-wiring useless? I know there is a large distance between bolts; but, I was just planning on wiring one bolt to the other.
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Thank you Styler!
Yep, spinning is also a concern of me. I talked to several mechanics and the only idea was to add some sort of rotation locking latch. But I don't like it because it would hurt the surface of covers. So I tought I just try to use these kind of washers. If it works, I would give them to you buyers.
I also made some inquiries to completely redesigning the covers which would then have some sort of mounting points for the safety wires.
Aluminium 3d machined covers would be heavier than the OEM ones.
Carbon Fiber cover would have to be made in two steps, outer and inner layer, with Aluminium inlays. It would cost 500.- per piece and I guess nobody is really interested in that.
 
My first thought would also be that that the possibility of spinning of the washer with the bolt would defeat the purpose of the safety wiring. The washer idea without a rotation lock would work well if the washer was attached to another bolt closeby, in a similar fashion as I think i remember seeing you doing with your oil filler cap on a picture a while back. But I can't really think of anything close to the covers that could work like that :(

I also understand your concern of a rotation lock on the washer could dig into the cover around the bolt, which we of course don't want :)

I liked your idea for a new valve cover that you also mentioned in a separate thread , but for me that is a bit more than I am able to spend at the moment on an mostly "invisible" part. Sorry about that.
 
Update from the Manufacturer: Bolts production should be finished in 3rd week of January. After delivery to me they'll be ready for shippment. I'll keep you guys up to date.

Last week I was in Almeria for three days on the track. There was a guy with his 1199 that even LOST one of the v-cyl cover bolts :(
 
Gecko said:
Update from the Manufacturer: Bolts production should be finished in 3rd week of January.

Last week I was in Almeria for three days on the track. There was a guy with his 1199 that even LOST one of the v-cyl cover bolts :(
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Thanks for the update and the confirmation that this was a good idea. :)
 
Dear gents, another update.

End of production was planned to the end of this week. The CNC company producing the bolts in Germany had problems with drilling the safety wire holes into the bolts and is making one type of bolts again next week. I am very sorry for the delay, I try my best.

The good thing is: top quality, no compromise!
 

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We appreciate you spear-heading this effort and fronting the $$ to have the product manufactured.
No problem on the time thing… It's a new product. So, it is what it is in terms of getting it right.
I am not going to install them until I have put on another 1000 miles of track time and have my engine serviced. Since its below freezing here and the next track day is March 26th, no problem.
Again, thanks for leading the effort.

BTW, those are some nice bolts!
 
I'm probably the only one with a issue with time. My engine is in the process or being built, BUT I with the others, I would love to have a top quality product. Thanks Gecko.
 
Aaarghhhh....
Bolts are finished, but the ones for the horizontal cylinder have the wrong hex head size (8 instead of 9mm) :(
So another week goes by... I'm very sorry!
Jeezez, I'm too old for this stuff.
 

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That is OK with me. Nonetheless, is that a material difference in the strength performance of the bolts?
I'm sorry things are not going smoothly for you; thank you for all the work you're doing on this for us.
 

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