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Seriously Please Help Backfiring/smoke exhaust
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Ducati's are sensitive to being overfilled.
then if this is the cause of the problem :
you may not simply be able to drain or siphon a little out of the crankcase to solve the problem , because there might be oil in your airbox.
hopefully this is the cause of the smoke. and someone here can help you on a how to remove the extra oil out of the crankcase and check the airbox.
you can use the top with straw from a windex bottle to siphon a bit of oil out of the crankcase or you can buy a hand pump siphon at an auto parts store .
I'm looking into that now but seriously thanks for the help
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Backfiring, smoke at start up, and hard starts are all fairly common occurrences on a lot of the bikes on the forum. I got lucky, the only issue I had was the R kept dying when pulling the clutch in so I adjusted the metal contact tab behind the lever and all was fine thereafter.
Since the seller seemed honest to you, I'd say normal issues but I would definitely get it checked out. Like someone said earlier, any decent bike mechanic should be able to take a look.
Since the seller seemed honest to you, I'd say normal issues but I would definitely get it checked out. Like someone said earlier, any decent bike mechanic should be able to take a look.
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Backfiring / blue - white smoke from the exhaust
Hey boss,
I was just wondering if you figured out the problem with your Ducati 1199 issue on the smoke from the exhaust and the backfiring. I own a Ducati 1199 Panigale S. This bike has just over 400 miles on it. My story is exactly the same I bought the Ducati and recently I tried to start the bike, I ran it a while and after about ten minutes it began to back fire. I shut the bike down let it cool off and the backfiring upon start up was really bad. I drove the bike down the road and it shut off on me. I contacted Ducati, they said sometimes the throttle gets reset on the bike so they told me to allow the bike to run to full temperature which is 220 F when the fan kicks in on idle so the bike can reset its computer and throttle. I have rode the bike since and everything was operating great. However, the smoke out of the exhaust issue is still there.
When starting the bike on a cold start there is a good amount of bluish / white smoke coming out of both cans on the exhaust. When the bike reaches temperature of 125 - 130 F the smoking goes away. When you ride the bike there is no smoke at all but the smell is still there of burnt oil.
Yesterday, I started the bike it started great. I rode the bike for approximately 20 miles and shut it down. I felt that everything was operating great. I shut the bike down went to dinner and a few hours later came back to ride the bike. When I went to start the bike there was so much smoke coming from the exhaust and the outside of the pipe it was almost scary to look at. From what I understand this is normal according to Ducati and the forum of what people have been saying based on these engines.
Additionally, I noticed that the bike almost surges when riding it almost as if it was hesitating to give power. I am not sure if this is normal for this bike.
This bike has a full titanium Termi exhaust with all the restrictions removed. The bike has had the racing evo mapping completed. My question is could this be caused by the racing evo mapping fighting the de-tuned computer of the panigale designed for the brake in period. The RPM gauge has an orange bar from 6000 rpm to 12000 rpm. When riding the bike, the bike accelerates fine up to 6000 rpm and then hesitates to get over the 6000 rpm but once past it regains proper power. Is this something that might cause an issue in running especially with the racing evo mapping completed and the 600 service not being completed yet?????
This is my first Ducati and so I am not familiar with its running operation and what it should run like and what is not proper during running. Any help would be appreciated.
P.S. - The owners manual says that the orange bar on the RPM's from 6000 on is until the bike reaches 621 MILES. Just wondering if it running the way it is running is normal.
Hey boss,
I was just wondering if you figured out the problem with your Ducati 1199 issue on the smoke from the exhaust and the backfiring. I own a Ducati 1199 Panigale S. This bike has just over 400 miles on it. My story is exactly the same I bought the Ducati and recently I tried to start the bike, I ran it a while and after about ten minutes it began to back fire. I shut the bike down let it cool off and the backfiring upon start up was really bad. I drove the bike down the road and it shut off on me. I contacted Ducati, they said sometimes the throttle gets reset on the bike so they told me to allow the bike to run to full temperature which is 220 F when the fan kicks in on idle so the bike can reset its computer and throttle. I have rode the bike since and everything was operating great. However, the smoke out of the exhaust issue is still there.
When starting the bike on a cold start there is a good amount of bluish / white smoke coming out of both cans on the exhaust. When the bike reaches temperature of 125 - 130 F the smoking goes away. When you ride the bike there is no smoke at all but the smell is still there of burnt oil.
Yesterday, I started the bike it started great. I rode the bike for approximately 20 miles and shut it down. I felt that everything was operating great. I shut the bike down went to dinner and a few hours later came back to ride the bike. When I went to start the bike there was so much smoke coming from the exhaust and the outside of the pipe it was almost scary to look at. From what I understand this is normal according to Ducati and the forum of what people have been saying based on these engines.
Additionally, I noticed that the bike almost surges when riding it almost as if it was hesitating to give power. I am not sure if this is normal for this bike.
This bike has a full titanium Termi exhaust with all the restrictions removed. The bike has had the racing evo mapping completed. My question is could this be caused by the racing evo mapping fighting the de-tuned computer of the panigale designed for the brake in period. The RPM gauge has an orange bar from 6000 rpm to 12000 rpm. When riding the bike, the bike accelerates fine up to 6000 rpm and then hesitates to get over the 6000 rpm but once past it regains proper power. Is this something that might cause an issue in running especially with the racing evo mapping completed and the 600 service not being completed yet?????
This is my first Ducati and so I am not familiar with its running operation and what it should run like and what is not proper during running. Any help would be appreciated.
P.S. - The owners manual says that the orange bar on the RPM's from 6000 on is until the bike reaches 621 MILES. Just wondering if it running the way it is running is normal.
Everything you mentioned sounds normal to me. Just take it easy for break in period.
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Ok thank you I wasn't sure and I do not want to be riding if there is something wrong with the motor. I hate going to the dealership with anything because the technicians there do not give a damn about personal property. Beside the point I like to work on my own bike whenever I can to avoid damage or oil spills and unnecessary scratches and dents.
I would imagine if there was a issue with compression or the pistons that this bike would throw up a check engine light.
I would imagine if there was a issue with compression or the pistons that this bike would throw up a check engine light.
Panigales have all sorts of electrical issues. Some die on you when you are riding them.. Some like mine have the throttle stick in first gear for a couple of seconds when de accelerating. Others wont start easily etc etc..
'Get used to it.. Of course they will tell you that some problems they can fix at the dealership, and some problems will work themselves out as you ride the bike Others will need the Ducati rep and then others will never be fixed..
Ducati is not real good with acknowledging there is a problem and coming up with a fix right away..
I read recently that they came up with a fix/reflash of the EC for the 2015 Multistrada issues for the gauges and fuel gauge etc.. That is promising.!! Now if they will just address the very well known stalling issues and hard starting issues.. !
Mine ran very badly below 5000 rpm while cruising in town and I got fed up with the herky jerky throttle response until I finally installed a Rapid Bike racing module on it. It has literally transformed the bike I can ride at 45 mph in 4th gear at around 3000 rpm and it just purrs No bucking and kicking and acting like it wants to stall etc.. It also runs cooler and doesn't get the rear fender to 300 degrees anymore..
Dont' let them or anyone else on this forum tell you that "that is just the way Ducati big twins run " That is BS They are just so leaned out from the factory to pass the EPA regulations etc. that they need fuel in the right places..
They told me that the rough running and surging etc was Just part of the "character" of the brand..I found out that that is not true. However the dealers mechanics are very limited in what they are allowed to modify.. The dealership I used Re-flashed the ECU with a Rexxer unit to try to fix the problem. and it helped very little. Then the factory rep said they had voided my warranty! They had to install a new ECU
(Ducati could take some lessons from the Japanese about building a reliable bike..)
I am sure they are much lower maintenance that the older versions but they still have a lot of gremlins to work out.. Overall I love the bike but it is a very aggravating thing to constantly have to be brining it back into the dealer ..
Speedy
'Get used to it.. Of course they will tell you that some problems they can fix at the dealership, and some problems will work themselves out as you ride the bike Others will need the Ducati rep and then others will never be fixed..
Ducati is not real good with acknowledging there is a problem and coming up with a fix right away..
I read recently that they came up with a fix/reflash of the EC for the 2015 Multistrada issues for the gauges and fuel gauge etc.. That is promising.!! Now if they will just address the very well known stalling issues and hard starting issues.. !
Mine ran very badly below 5000 rpm while cruising in town and I got fed up with the herky jerky throttle response until I finally installed a Rapid Bike racing module on it. It has literally transformed the bike I can ride at 45 mph in 4th gear at around 3000 rpm and it just purrs No bucking and kicking and acting like it wants to stall etc.. It also runs cooler and doesn't get the rear fender to 300 degrees anymore..
Dont' let them or anyone else on this forum tell you that "that is just the way Ducati big twins run " That is BS They are just so leaned out from the factory to pass the EPA regulations etc. that they need fuel in the right places..
They told me that the rough running and surging etc was Just part of the "character" of the brand..I found out that that is not true. However the dealers mechanics are very limited in what they are allowed to modify.. The dealership I used Re-flashed the ECU with a Rexxer unit to try to fix the problem. and it helped very little. Then the factory rep said they had voided my warranty! They had to install a new ECU
(Ducati could take some lessons from the Japanese about building a reliable bike..)
I am sure they are much lower maintenance that the older versions but they still have a lot of gremlins to work out.. Overall I love the bike but it is a very aggravating thing to constantly have to be brining it back into the dealer ..
Speedy
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