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flobrandx · Apr 24, 2016

Agreed, Rossi's longevity has hurt is overall stats on wins/podiums per race but that could end up being the same for MM or Jlo depending on how long they stay in the sport and how many titles and races they end up winning. Only time will tell who the GOAT will be down the road. Look at Agostini he's a 15 time world champ so that would make him the real GOAT?

mark419ny · Apr 24, 2016

Thank you for your participation im gone till Tuesday be well all

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b9009b · Apr 24, 2016

still doesnt change the fact Rossi won when the other's didnt regardless of tires or anything.. electronics does matter as if tires were an issue obviously Rossi is the best rider as he could overcome that and still win with a nice lead..

The Avidmoto · Apr 24, 2016

Scott Redding's tire began delaminating again. This is ........!

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b9009b · Apr 24, 2016

Mitchelin needs to get their .... together..

flobrandx · Apr 24, 2016

Maybe the should use Dunlop or Pirelli. That will fix it!

centeroff · Apr 24, 2016

Ljuice26 said:
Thats another thing. The tires are making guys not able to finish the race. Everyone is commenting on Jlo crying, but they are getting paid millions to finish #1 and because of ...... tires, they cant. It's also a safety issue. Look at when Baz was testing and had an off at 150MPH plus. Everyone needs to quit with the crying .... and look at it objectively. Because everyone has a bad opinion of Jlo, they let their disdain for the guy effect there opinions....

The 46 didn't get special tires, the beauty of racing is everyone has to race the same track in the same conditions and now days the same tires. Rossi was the last 500 gp champion, no electronics, he was the first moto gp champion, temeber 5 in a row 2 stroke 4 stroke honda and yamaha. He knows throttle control, something that the new breed is going to have to learn with the new spec computer.

Ljuice26 · Apr 24, 2016

centeroff said:
The 46 didn't get special tires, the beauty of racing is everyone has to race the same track in the same conditions and now days the same tires. Rossi was the last 500 gp champion, no electronics, he was the first moto gp champion, temeber 5 in a row 2 stroke 4 stroke honda and yamaha. He knows throttle control, something that the new breed is going to have to learn with the new spec computer.

Who said he had special tires. I said the tires are ..... Dovi pitted because of a tire issue. Bad had a big off in testing. Multiple guys are having issues with tire hence the reason for the stop in go q few rounds ago.

b9009b · Apr 24, 2016

Ljuice26 said:
Who said he had special tires. I said the tires are ..... Dovi pitted because of a tire issue. Bad had a big off in testing. Multiple guys are having issues with tire hence the reason for the stop in go q few rounds ago.

Correction.. Dovi pitted from what he thought was a tire issue.. It turned out to be a water pump failure.. Straight from Ducati and Dovi's FB..

Prince Albert · Apr 24, 2016

those tires are ....… plus how can you trust a company that has a mascot with multiple gunts?

cmepasu · Apr 24, 2016

Ooooooooh BURNED!!!!!!!!!

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wilkson · Apr 24, 2016

Stats tell a different story to Lorenzos .

BenF04 · Apr 25, 2016

'The pace was not that fast at the start and I could have won by a good margin '

But you didn't and at the end of the day you couldn't run the pace of Rossi. Its exactly these kind of words and sentiments that makes Lorenzo come across as largely unlikable (being kind..) , especially as it appears that the majority of the grid were experiencing the same tyre issues.

Be magnanimous in victory and gracious in defeat, people may like you more. Or even perhaps a little bit.

batmantis · Apr 25, 2016

mark419ny said:
Ok a little long but numbers don't lie
Rossi has been fed from silver spoons since the beginning. The best equipment. Fellow racers who pull off the line - in advance, so that he may easily pass them. F.I.M. "rules" that apply to everyone else - not him.
And yet... he whine's like a spoiled rich kid when relegated to the rest of the pack. Whhen his "endless" talent inevitably runs out atop a Ducati... Or when Stoner, Lorenzo or Marquez don't bow to his "kingdom".
113 wins. Yeah, if you combine EVERY WIN EVER. But to be fair, let's compare MotoGP apples to apples.
Rossi: 2002-present. 242 starts, but only 74 wins. That's 30.5%.
Plus he's achieved 154 podiums, 48 poles and garned 4013 pts.
Stoner: 2006-2012. He's won 38 out of 115 races, dead on 33%.
Plus he achieved 69 podiums, 39 poles and earned 1815 pts.
Jorge: 2008-present. Out of 138 starts he won 41 times. That's 29.7% of all the races he contested.
Plus he achieved 97 podiums, 35 poles, and earned 2367 pts.
Marquez: Just 2013-present. Out of JUST 57 starts he's won 26 times!!... Which equates to winning 45.6% of all races he's entered.
Plus he achieved 42 podiums, 32 poles and earned 1004 pts.
The numbers don't add up. Sure he's been in MotoGP a long time, but that doesn't make him great. His record doesn't prove it either. When you take into account all of his childishness, rule-breaking and threats if he doesn't have the best of everything, and top it all off with his pompous "I can do anything" attitude - except ride a Ducati, you find out that, at best - he's nothing more than average.

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Average?
Either you are the worst troll ever or you are actually a bit slow.
If Rossi's career is average and beating Marquez and Lorenzo (4 wins last year not 2) at 37 is average then you have a brain dead definition of the word!

mark419ny · Apr 25, 2016

I guess you can't read or you are dumb as .... lorenzo 7 wins marquez 5 rossi 4. Danny wasn't there mm crashed 6 times and rossi lost the title. I said he's good for about 2 a year. Now dispute the facts a posted statistics and we can talk. Avg at best that's why him and Nicky were the same on the duc. If rossi was great he would have destroyed nicky

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youngR · Apr 25, 2016

mark419ny said:
Ok a little long but numbers don't lie
Rossi has been fed from silver spoons since the beginning. The best equipment. Fellow racers who pull off the line - in advance, so that he may easily pass them. F.I.M. "rules" that apply to everyone else - not him.
And yet... he whine's like a spoiled rich kid when relegated to the rest of the pack. Whhen his "endless" talent inevitably runs out atop a Ducati... Or when Stoner, Lorenzo or Marquez don't bow to his "kingdom".
113 wins. Yeah, if you combine EVERY WIN EVER. But to be fair, let's compare MotoGP apples to apples.
Rossi: 2002-present. 242 starts, but only 74 wins. That's 30.5%.
Plus he's achieved 154 podiums, 48 poles and garned 4013 pts.
Stoner: 2006-2012. He's won 38 out of 115 races, dead on 33%.
Plus he achieved 69 podiums, 39 poles and earned 1815 pts.
Jorge: 2008-present. Out of 138 starts he won 41 times. That's 29.7% of all the races he contested.
Plus he achieved 97 podiums, 35 poles, and earned 2367 pts.
Marquez: Just 2013-present. Out of JUST 57 starts he's won 26 times!!... Which equates to winning 45.6% of all races he's entered.
Plus he achieved 42 podiums, 32 poles and earned 1004 pts.
The numbers don't add up. Sure he's been in MotoGP a long time, but that doesn't make him great. His record doesn't prove it either. When you take into account all of his childishness, rule-breaking and threats if he doesn't have the best of everything, and top it all off with his pompous "I can do anything" attitude - except ride a Ducati, you find out that, at best - he's nothing more than average.

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Mark,

You have remember that in the motorcycle racing, there is a age factor. So, wins vs time, is not a increasing linear line or even linear line but a decreasing linear line. So, I will argue that Rossi is doing better than anyone in history with his age and still placing podiums. I bet Non of you mention above will do as well as he is doing this long in the game. It will be better to do a analysis with equal number of years in racing and even that doesn't count many other misc factors. I mean, Stoner quit because he couldn't handle the pressure and greatest of Rossi.

mark419ny · Apr 25, 2016

Stoner quit because he wanted to just race not do appearances didn't like electronics and felt that the open class bikes didn't belong on the track.

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Macattack · Apr 25, 2016

mark419ny said:
Ok a little long but numbers don't lie
Rossi has been fed from silver spoons since the beginning. The best equipment. Fellow racers who pull off the line - in advance, so that he may easily pass them. F.I.M. "rules" that apply to everyone else - not him.
And yet... he whine's like a spoiled rich kid when relegated to the rest of the pack. Whhen his "endless" talent inevitably runs out atop a Ducati... Or when Stoner, Lorenzo or Marquez don't bow to his "kingdom".
113 wins. Yeah, if you combine EVERY WIN EVER. But to be fair, let's compare MotoGP apples to apples.
Rossi: 2002-present. 242 starts, but only 74 wins. That's 30.5%.
Plus he's achieved 154 podiums, 48 poles and garned 4013 pts.
Stoner: 2006-2012. He's won 38 out of 115 races, dead on 33%.
Plus he achieved 69 podiums, 39 poles and earned 1815 pts.
Jorge: 2008-present. Out of 138 starts he won 41 times. That's 29.7% of all the races he contested.
Plus he achieved 97 podiums, 35 poles, and earned 2367 pts.
Marquez: Just 2013-present. Out of JUST 57 starts he's won 26 times!!... Which equates to winning 45.6% of all races he's entered.
Plus he achieved 42 podiums, 32 poles and earned 1004 pts.
The numbers don't add up. Sure he's been in MotoGP a long time, but that doesn't make him great. His record doesn't prove it either. When you take into account all of his childishness, rule-breaking and threats if he doesn't have the best of everything, and top it all off with his pompous "I can do anything" attitude - except ride a Ducati, you find out that, at best - he's nothing more than average.

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I think you should have included gp500 through motogp since they are the same class - premier class. I mean really a gp500 bike was way more talent driven than the bikes they have now. it would not have raised his 30% much but I think your not going to be impressed by anything he does regardless.
I think racing for being in racing as long as he has and having such a high batting average actually makes the case for those saying is the goat. obviously i think there will be another fast rider come along and break all rossi's records , but I'd bet some serious cash that marquez will not have a 45% in ten years if he can show up and race for that long. to finish a race career with those numbers would be very impressive IMO it puts racers like lorenzo, Rossi and maybe Marquez in a separate category . Doohan , Spencer , lawson, roberts, sheen , hailwood, rainey all in the same category . IMO
(marq hasn't been racing very long so maybe)

funny after I read your statistics I though Maybe I should give Rossi a little more credit ..... he has had an amazing career such a talent . LOL you've sold me I think Rossi is the KING LONG live the KING .

VAST · Apr 25, 2016

every forum has a bitter resident ...... like Mark -- stop feeding it...

flobrandx · Apr 25, 2016

mark419ny said:
I guess you can't read or you are dumb as .... lorenzo 7 wins marquez 5 rossi 4. Danny wasn't there mm crashed 6 times and rossi lost the title. I said he's good for about 2 a year. Now dispute the facts a posted statistics and we can talk. Avg at best that's why him and Nicky were the same on the duc. If rossi was great he would have destroyed nicky

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Maybe Nicky is better than people give him credit. Have Lorenzo and MM destroyed Rossi over the years to make them great and him average? Unfortunately, i don't see it that way and the stats you posted dont show average either.

Just to be clear no tissues needed here as I'm not a VR 46 fanboy just a fan of motorcycle racing

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