Termi Slip-ons - Install

Xbox · Apr 28, 2012

Wow, I'd forgotten how much fun these things are to work on

Few hand cuts from the heat shields, few undocumented cables ties to cut and odd extra bolts to remove - so just standard Italian stuff

Also, good job I already starved myself for a month, so that my hands could be smaller

2-hrs to strip the original kit off, so I've parked it up for the night at this rather sensible point in the procedure.

Now, just need to get part-2 nailed before the MotoGP tomorrow

Rhino · Apr 28, 2012

Sounds like fun.

Might just get the dealer to do it

Xbox · Apr 28, 2012

Rhino said:
Sounds like fun.

Might just get the dealer to do it

Make sure you get a rebate or something, for the fun they'll rob of you

karrl · Apr 28, 2012

so thats what i did. let the dealer do it. but he also had quite some problem installing the termis. yesterdayat 8:30 pm mez it was ready for my first ride.
very very nice. as if we have 30 degrees celcius in germany today was a hot ride. emotionally and for my testicles!

found some protective foil underneath. how did ducati know that i want the termis??
if not that one would produce a nice smell after some heating up.

Xbox · Apr 28, 2012

karrl said:
so thats what i did. let the dealer do it. but he also had quite some problem installing the termis. yesterdayat 8:30 pm mez it was ready for my first ride.
very very nice. as if we have 30 degrees celcius in germany today was a hot ride. emotionally and for my testicles!

found some protective foil underneath. how did ducati know that i want the termis??
if not that one would produce a nice smell after some heating up.

Removing the rear wheel is just plain old cheating. Where's the fun in that

Xbox · Apr 28, 2012

karrl said:
found some protective foil underneath. how did ducati know that i want the termis??
if not that one would produce a nice smell after some heating up.

Where did you find foil Karl?

Xbox · Apr 29, 2012

Wow! Tricky job, not helped by Termignoni's poor QC.

- Needed to finish a number of part so they would fit
- Poor accuracy in relation to instructions
- Missing bolts that I fortunately managed to rob from old parts

Took 2.5hrs to strip down and finish parts, then another 3hrs to complete

So, post install, as Ducati intended this bike, the sound is much deeper, although not that much louder at idle, but definitely louder once under way.

Haven't noticed any loss in idle to low-rpm torque, which I recall being the initial obvious difference on past machines, so game on.

karrl · Apr 29, 2012

on the right side of the motocycle. as they replaced the standard slip-ons there was a white foil-stripe placed on the engine. sorry i can not discribe exactly where it was. we made fun out of the italian ingeneering as my dealer removed the foil. then i left the shop an received the finished bike the day after. the mechanic told me that he had to improvise installing the termi. there must be a fitting problem they had to fix and that took more time than expected.
i still have no new mapping downloaded. the mapping is the main reason for gaining more torc not the termi. after the first inspection it will be installed.

Xbox · Apr 29, 2012

karrl said:
on the right side of the motocycle. as they replaced the standard slip-ons there was a white foil-stripe placed on the engine. sorry i can not discribe exactly where it was. we made fun out of the italian ingeneering as my dealer removed the foil. then i left the shop an received the finished bike the day after. the mechanic told me that he had to improvise installing the termi. there must be a fitting problem they had to fix and that took more time than expected.
i still have no new mapping downloaded. the mapping is the main reason for gaining more torc not the termi. after the first inspection it will be installed.

So your guys chose to install the pipes, but not the map

I would rather have the correct mapping and ride around the more aggressive fuelling personally.

flynbulldog · Apr 29, 2012

Xbox said:
So your guys chose to install the pipes, but not the map

I would rather have the correct mapping and ride around the more aggressive fuelling personally.

yeah, I would not run the bike without the proper map - it will be too lean, could even cause damage to the engine.

Xbox · Apr 29, 2012

karrl said:
on the right side of the motocycle. as they replaced the standard slip-ons there was a white foil-stripe placed on the engine. sorry i can not discribe exactly where it was. we made fun out of the italian ingeneering as my dealer removed the foil. then i left the shop an received the finished bike the day after. the mechanic told me that he had to improvise installing the termi. there must be a fitting problem they had to fix and that took more time than expected.
i still have no new mapping downloaded. the mapping is the main reason for gaining more torc not the termi. after the first inspection it will be installed.

The engine cases all come covered in white foil. It's not heat shield, just protective film.

I peeled a bunch of that stuff off with the head tech, before my bike went to the show.

karrl · Apr 29, 2012

yeah, but on places of the engine where you only could find it when you remove the exhaust?
sorry, this is just dump production ........!
same with the discription of how to....
missing or false parts? come on!

mavic · May 15, 2012

UP Map

So did you do the UP Map yourself. According to the instructions it was quite easy but also according to the instructions, things would have gone a bit smoother with the exhaust install as well.

Xbox · May 15, 2012

mavic said:
So did you do the UP Map yourself. According to the instructions it was quite easy but also according to the instructions, things would have gone a bit smoother with the exhaust install as well.

That was the easy part. Plug, ignition, upload, done

elitesoldier357 · May 18, 2012

How did the Slip-On's perform? Was there a power increase? I am thinking of getting the slip-ons myself and installing them myself. I used to be a howitzer mechanic in the Army for 4 years, working on 48 $1.6 million-a-piece weapon systems. So I imagine I could figure out the install myself. However, I do not know how to fuel map the bike myself, but I could probably find a dealer to do it or a shop. I just want to know the unknown variables here and the steps to the whole process and cost. I want to make sure I do this right the first time around. Any advice would be great

Xbox · May 18, 2012

elitesoldier357 said:
How did the Slip-On's perform? Was there a power increase? I am thinking of getting the slip-ons myself and installing them myself. I used to be a howitzer mechanic in the Army for 4 years, working on 48 $1.6 million-a-piece weapon systems. So I imagine I could figure out the install myself. However, I do not know how to fuel map the bike myself, but I could probably find a dealer to do it or a shop. I just want to know the unknown variables here and the steps to the whole process and cost. I want to make sure I do this right the first time around. Any advice would be great

May I suggest you download the installation instructions from somewhere like ProItalia.

Once you've read it all through, I'm sure you will be 100% comfortable.

The map upload is the easiest part - literally plug'n'play - the bike knows what it needs to do

elitesoldier357 · May 18, 2012

Alright. Thats kind of what I figured. Now, which exhaust? Slip-Ons or Full? Obviously the price difference is the big breaker. But the dealer tells me that Ducati has told him that there is no power increase, just a little better midrange, a little less weight and more sound. But when I saw a video of an 1199 Tricolore on youtube it apparently dynoed at 186 Rwhp with slip-ons, but they didnt show proof of this. But I assume the guy isnt a liar and this is most likely true. Right?

Xbox · May 19, 2012

I would love to see some dyno charts of stock v slip v full.

Since the Tric came with slips, this was not a decision I made, however, you can always add the headers at a later date, as I may do.

Braintrash · May 19, 2012

Most of the gain is from the slip-ons.
AFAIK, using theorical figures, stock is 195, slip-ons are 203, full is 205. Your mileage may vary, but you have an idea of the differences to expect, which shouldn't vary much.

elitesoldier357 · May 19, 2012

Did you dyno your Tricolore with slip-ons? All I want to know is if there was a power increase. The dealer tells me there was no peak power difference, just a stronger midrange and a slight drop in weight.

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